This is the way. When you got a arguably bad YoYo it becomes 5A fodder
Speaking of this is a 5 dollar beeboo YoYo (surprisingly playable) thatās being sacrificed to the 5A gods
I believe thatās a broken ultra weight
Not a fan of this line of thinking. I think you should like the yoyos you use for 5A. It feels kinda like a disservice to the style to not wanna use your favorite yoyos, as if 5A is a lesser style only worth using cheap throws you donāt care about. Imagine if 3A or 4A players only used cheap yoyos they didnāt care about, instead of yoyos they actually loved. 5A seems to get this treatment a lot unfortunately.
I realize youāre not insinuating anything actually deep here, and itās just a casual joke. But I felt like using this as general encouragement to anybody to use their favorite yoyos for 5A. Just play over grass/carpet and you might not even notice your yoyo pick up any damage at all. Youāre not gonna break or ruin your yoyos, I promise. Playing yoyo is always more fun when the yoyo youāre using gets you excited to play yoyo. 5A is worth using your nice/expensive yoyos for, itās not a style that should be relegated to only yoyos you donāt care about.
Sorry this wasnāt meant to imply anything of the sort however I absolutely suck at 5A and am very early on in this and am playing yo-yos I willing to beat up as Iām dropping them often vs anything decent in my collection. I did the same with 4a getting a used pre beat up flight and 3a using two different magic yo-yos vs anything I would be sad about dinging.
Heck Iāll do this with 1A if Iām working something Iām uncertain of and donāt want to risk my YoYo
Once I gain some confidence I try it on whatever YoYo I have and enjoy
I think itās good at the beginning to use something you donāt mind dinging and use something decent that you like once you start getting the feel for the basics.
I started out using strictly plastics for a while but now I have no problem throwing anything from my collection as long as it feels good for 5A. The feel, performance, and spin time definitely makes a difference and can help you progress more.
I do not agree with you. First of all a cheaper yoyo is not necessarily a ānot fun oneā.
It makes total sense to me that i d use an expensive yoyo for 1a (main style) where i never drop the yoyo. When it comes to 5a I drop it 3-6 times per one hour session. It makes sense yo use a yoyo below 50 euros for that task than my 106 euros v2 diver or my emotion which I adore.
Same for 3a especially at start where I am guessing (I do not have a clue actually) you ll be dinging your yoyos every 40 seconds.
I do not think that there is nothing between a 10 dollar yoyo and a 100+ dollar bimetal.
I think the more your skill grows, the more the 5a yoyo price should increase.
Otherwise, jt js like learning trapeze with a yoyorecreation bimetal or a luftverk titanium yo-yo. I mean you can do it, but why?
My post was directly in response to people joking that yoyos they thought were bad for various reasons were the ideal yoyos to 5A with, implying that liking your yoyo less makes it a better choice for 5A.
Lots of people generally state their reasoning for their pick of a 5A yoyo as ābecause it was cheap and I donāt care if I damage it.ā
I think learning to live and not care with damage on your favorite throws is liberating in a way. Play your favorite yoyos any time, anywhere, and only be concerned about playing them, not being concerned about damaging them. Yoyos are very durable and you might pick up some scuffs and dings, but theyāre not going to break. Thereās nothing wrong with using cheaper yoyos, and cheaper yoyos can absolutely be amazing and fun. But to exclusively use cheap yoyos or yoyos you donāt care about just feels like intentionally choosing to not have fun playing your favorite yoyos while playing 5A.
Iām gonna say something controversial but reality is that beeboo YoYo and the Watieoboo YoYo both arent actually all that bad of yo-yos the brands are just sketchy making the yoyo a ābadā YoYo because we donāt love the brand. In the end the yoyo plays fine. In actually really surprised how good the 5dollar beoboo yoyo is. It shouldnāt play that well at that price. Itās not amazing I wonāt be grabbing it very often but itās just fine for learning a style Iām not confident in.
Iām of the opinion we stop stigmatizing using cheap yo-yos. If the entry to yoyo can be 5 bucks for a good enough throw in all for it
Just to add my thoughts. As i was reading the posts, the more heartbroken i became. Not that bad but still hurts my soul. I cherish my 5a setups and they are cared for the most. They take the most damage sure, but iām going to use my favorite yoyos. Iām a 5a player at the end of the day and seeing the mind set of beater = 5a just⦠kinda makes me sad.
Nice yoyos like to fly too.
Yeah I am using yoyos I love to do 5A. My Sengoku Ashigaru was actually my first metal yoyo ever and now I am using it a lot again. I donāt mind it getting some more damage since it was already dinged and Iām never getting rid of it anyway. The OD Wizard is just a fun yoyo and it matched my green cw and, turns out, I love it for 5A! It already collected a ding from rolling across the grass at high speed straight into a row of bricks. Iāve done like 10 min of 5A on my Titanic before and Iām probably gonna string it up with a CW again shortly. I love how the Titanic plays.
I am reluctant to do any bimetal 5a, Iām just afraid of shifting the rings and never getting it smooth again.
I can see the value of both points of view. I decided that I would use my Barracuda. I also put a counterweight on my AL Freehand to see how that was. I like the Barracuda more by a huge margin. I had asked if any certain shapes or sizes were advantageous for 5a and most said use what you like. So I chose to use a throw that I liked. Iāve pretty much gotten rid of most of my less desirable throws so I donāt have fodder as such to sacrifice as some decide to do. I will say that if I didnāt like the throw to begin with, Iām probably not going to care for it for 5a either. And using a less than desirable throw could end up slanting my view of the style in a negative way. This is just how I reasoned it out.
I only throw yoyos i enjoy no matter what style i play. I have dinged more yoyos playing 1A then 5A (probably cause i play 90% 1A)⦠therefore since they are already dinged i have no worry playing any yoyo
AL fh has a few scratch marks. The first ding will set you free!
The first ding will set you free is correct my friend.
We all play YoYo different and value things different. Those of us that are into the collection side of YoYo baby some throws and not others. I also have an absurd number of yo-yos enough I can play a different YoYo every day of the year and not get through everything if I count duplicates and odd ball gimmicks and cheap trash yo-yos.
Yoyo is all about personal preference. I do what I like you all do what you like. I donāt see why we have to feel one way or another about it.
I will say again I really wasnāt trying to insult 5A as a style nor hurt anyoneās feelings if thatās what has happened I am truely sorry.
Iām having a blast with 5a, and my other setup is my Metavity. Just figured it couldnāt hurt to bang up that Watieoboo!
Donāt even bother with the Bi metals. I too had the same fear. And after a while i thought it was actually ok, but nah. Iāve ruined them all. Itās just a matter of time. Mono material is king.
I played a Haymaker X for a while and rim shifted it a few times. Super awesome yoyo to actually play, and it only took a few seconds to slam the rims back into place, but itās still an extra annoyance I donāt like to even think about.
A couple people on Twitter who go way harder than me at 5A are also regularly posting pictures of their dislodged rims. Iām definitely mono gang all the way. Although even when rims totally pop off, itās still a really fast process to hammer them back on so itās like not that big of a deal.
Fair enough thoughts both ways. I dont think ppl using beater yoyos for 5A is something ti get offended at. Some of us just suck, so its a guarantee we are going to beat the crap out of any 5A yoyos.
Im brand new to the style so im using a plastic duncan freehand pro that I got for free and tweaked with weight rings. By no means is it a good yoyo, but its perfect for me to practice and learn with.
By the same token id probably be up for using a more fun yoyo way in the future when im experienced enough.
Like right now im debating selling my One Drop Wizard, but it might be better for me to save it for future 5A fodder. Not my favorite yoyo, but seems like a fun option for 5A when I feel skilled enough to use it. But no one could call it a bad yoyo even if its just not my favorite.