i know the on paper differences between these two, but what play differences does that amount to?
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Reboot is zippier and more maneuverable! I like it more.
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Rebirth is sludgier and slower, Reboot is faster and more agile but still keeps the delightful thunk. In many cases with OD I like the original and the boosted version both, but in this case the Reboot is just way better. Reboot is one of my very faves.
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This is the answer. I love them both but strongly prefer Reboot.
Also, the Reboot with the cuts in the cup is the prettier 
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And here I am specifically liking the Rebirth more BECAUSE it’s a bit “sludgier and slower” haha! 
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Haha. I like Rebirth too. Feel the heavy.
Reboot with brass ultralights feels nice and refined.
@Splizacular have you played Markmont FRS P2?
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nope. the only od’s ive played are pano, still rollin, and deep/deeper states
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If you’re considering picking up Rebirth or Reboot, you may want to consider FRS P2 as part of the conversation. Too, it has an IRG if you like thumb grinds. I feel like it’s a bit more flexible than the other two.
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can i get you to expand on the versatility comment? i dont mind the extra cost if warranted, just curious what brings it to the table for you. and fwiw I’m not huge into grids or fingerspins, so those things aren’t really design factors for me
To me P2 is closer to rebirth than reboot. Hefty and solid playing. Its a touch larger so maybe just a bit easier to hit some tricks with.
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A while back I pitted Rebirth and Reboot against each other. Reboot went into cold storage. I agree with everything said about it so far, but my recollection is that I preferred the greater heft and slower pace of the Rebirth.
But that is just between the two. Despite the thud, I don’t think Rebirth plays heavy or slow in the grander scheme.
As far as the P2, are people talking about the original OD Project 2 or the recent Markmont FRS Project 2? (Edit: Larger + IRG eliminates the original).
I only have the FRS P2. It feels more substantial, powerful and stable than the Rebirth.
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i have all three and also prefer the rebirth (so much that i now have a second one in addition to my sunrise gate that i got during the pandemic). it’s thuddier and has that nice heft to it for being relatively small. i like the weight and that it’s not so focused on performance
regarding the markmont project 2 – it’s very nice and all but i find it kind of silly that among the three of them, it’s the one with “project” in its name that lacks the projection profile grooves. i personally think it’s a defining trait of the project/rebirth/reboot line and the markmont project 2 kind of does a disservice to that
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This describes by preference for Rebirth.
I think the P2 is an improvement in certain ways, but not the ways that make the line appealing to me.
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I think i have every iteration of project
P1, P2, ,rebirth, reboot, Marmkont FRM Project
Rebirth play more like like project 2 (heavy)
Reboot play more like project 1 (light and fast)
MM new project is unremarkable, still nice to own
I like reboot of the 3 modern rendition. i use mine often. I also get cerakote reboot to see how 1 extra gram weight feel on it. i like this one the most with 1 extra gram from cerakote.
none can replace p1/p2 magic, 50mm make this shape more fun for me, and make me remember how all one drop team member during p1/p2 era was doing fun chopstick tricks !
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i have an avalanche and dont mind its weight. they don’t feel heavier than that do they? ib think the avalanche is 67 or 68 if i remember correctly
could you get the same effect with a diff se, or is it diff since it would be focused in the center rather than all over
i would say it compare slow and heavy to avalanche is fair
how 1g is distributed makes substantial and significant difference
1g on axle just adds weight, since 1g around axle not adding to really any Centrifugal force, where as 1g all over is changing how the yoyo spin, because every 1mm of metal is now adding extra momentum and centrifugal force
i try my non-cerakote with brass side effects and didn’t do much to recreate how cerakote reboot feel with the extra weight everywhere
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Thank you for clarifying, I was referring to the FRS P2. I haven’t play the actual Project 2. My bad, edited my post.
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welp ended up trading for a reboot to give me more wriggle room with heavier se. really excited to give it a try! thanks for all the info yall
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Sorry I didn’t see this sooner, but it looks like you got some great feedback. I think you’ll be very happy with the Reboot, as it’s become one of my favorites.
P.S. While I prefer the Reboot, Rebirth with ULs has a cool feeling as well (reminds me a bit of Batsquatch, but with very different anno). As affordable as they are used, both are worth a try!
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