All of yours comes with one man!
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To be fair, I’m not sure what other brands could be referred to by “while another turns it into a Patreon-exclusive raffle and still adds an extra $40 on top” other than MF/G2 lol.
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I understand why MF and G2 stand out as examples, but other brands like OnlyPinkyoyos have done similar limited or exclusive releases. If you know the community well, you’ll see this is a broader pattern, not isolated to just a couple of companies. It’s an important conversation about accessibility and pricing in the hobby.
Of course, G2 comes up every time I give my opinion on a similar matter, and I always get challenged. That’s just how it goes 
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It doesnt help you scream artifical scarcity but praise mfd with the hundreds of drops a year they do. And your history of “following” other companies drops has NEVER given you inside information that you just assume as facts.
But yeah everyone just challenges you out of no where for no reason.
Got it 
I don’t know… I just think that if you don’t happen to snag a special edition, or you think its too expensive, then that’s that…
You can move on and keep living your life without it and things will be just fine.
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Amazing how much attention one man’s opinion gets, almost like it’s part of your weekly routine at this point
I guess when something hits close to home, it’s hard to look away.
I appreciate the consistency, truly keeps the thread alive although I never really wanted it to go this far.
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I have zero issue making it apart of my weekly routine of reminding people how big of a hater you are bro.
Hey man. Im sorry jake wouldn’t sell you G2s privately and your banshee didnt do well on the secondary market.
Maybe we can all feel better now.
But really i been ignoring your hate for a while. I might as well continue to do that.
I think you are confusing apples with oranges. These small run, artificially limited runs are made for ‘collectors’ who covet certain runs, versions or colorways. The scarcity and fancy anodized designs are the point - not necessarily the playability of the yo-yo itself.
You should ask yourself why you want a specific yo-yo that has limited availability? If it were such a great yo-yo; would it be limited to only a few? If it is a meh yo-yo, with a fancy set of clothes; then limiting availability actually increases the value to those that covet it. Since these same yo-yo’s are generally bought by ‘collectors’ there will be few voices that give honest opinions of the actual performance of the yo-yo in order to preserve the illusion of desirability and value.
Myself, I ignore these silly games. I only buy high-performance, widely available models. If I cannot buy it easily, then it is probably not worth my time.
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Matt, I have stated multiple times that I respect G2 as a company. They produce quality yoyos and I have never claimed otherwise. If you choose to ignore that and label me a hater, that is your decision.
I have not sold any of my G2s or most of my collection because I take the time to research, ask for feedback, and make careful decisions before making a purchase. I am not in this hobby to resell or create conflict. I am here because I genuinely enjoy it.
What I find disappointing is how often you go out of your way to respond to my comments with mockery or sarcasm, and yet the moment I respond with the same energy, I am suddenly the one being called out. If my opinions consistently bother you this much, perhaps the problem is not with what I am saying.
At this point, I am not interested in continuing this back and forth. I have said what I needed to say and I stand by it. You are free to disagree, but I do not see the value in engaging further when the goal seems to be personal rather than constructive.
Its honestly probably the typing. Would you like to come on and do a spotlight with me and we can talk about the yoyo business? Because i think we must be having communication issues.
I’ll dm you. Ive been in this community a long time and get along with people.
I think we should do it.
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Something to keep in mind is that One Drop machines their own yoyos in house, and because of that their costing structure is very different than many yoyo companies. There are few companies that can compete on the scale/cost that One Drop does with in-house machining, FPM/Yoyofriends, Topyo, and Magic Yoyo are a few of them. Most other brands have to pay for machining at a cost that makes profit for the machine shop as well. Combine that with the fact that G2 doesn’t get “completed yoyos” made, means theres extra costs associated with shipping raws from machine shop, then shipping raws to the anodizers. G2 also used to sell really beautiful yoyos on YoyoExpert as well.
I definitely appreciate that, but your tone and words seem to imply otherwise. You say this, then in the next paragraph spread misinformation about how to get G2 yoyos.
You don’t need to do any of that to buy a G2 either, you just need to hit the store Tuesday at 12pm EST, and Friday at 8pm EST. Usually 30-40 yoyos are sold per week on the store, no codes or subscriptions required.
Once you’ve had the best, you dont need the rest. /s
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Want to add here, @sedanthrows that i hope there’s no hard feelings here. I feel we’ve had a respectful exchange and if I’ve come off in any way other than conversational I apologize.
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While I agree with this 100%, it can be tough for a manufacturer to find that sweet spot every time. Tough to be consistent in that regard, especially with throwers’ tastes changing and trends appearing and disappearing.
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Only pink was a passion project. Lumping in passion projects, larger manufactures like one drop and one man long term brands like g2 is really comparing a bunch of non similar companies. They all have limitations and reasons they can only run so many YoYo’s per run or move on for whatever reason. The reality is these small batches are what separate the brands with low quality like YoYo factory from the boutique and well crafted and tested throws we all cherish. .
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I totally understand the niche that these companies are inhabiting. And I want to make clear that I simply love these amazing anodization-as-artwork yo-yo’s as much as anyone. Some of the G2 and MFD examples are pure art. Because of that, they are in short supply and are wanted by many people. Manufacturers are catering to this demand for beautiful yo-yo’s and doing the best they can to supply their traditional customers as well as welcoming new customers with their special raffles. It is just not for me.
I just want to add that not only are G2s “functional art” but they also play really well. Tons of designs for a variety of styles and players. A lot if not most of us “collectors” also play the yo-yos. Jake doesn’t get enough credit for the designer he is.
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I could put out a 6061 monometal, blasted and annodized in a single color for $30 shipped to the community. I would have to buy a run of 200 to get it at that price point, and this is assuming the first proto was a success, and accounting for $10 shipping. This also would not account for my time to do so. Selling all 200 would have me break even. This also accounts for the current 30 percent tarrifs.
I don’t have the funds nor time at this point in my life, but once I retire, it’s a goal. It is something anyone could do going through FPM at the moment.
People have to put bread on the table though, and I appreciate their hard work in getting yoyos out to us, so this is not a criticism of their efforts. It’s just information that not everyone is aware of and worthy of sharing.
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This also assumes zero b grades, which isn’t realistic.
I think most people also underestimate the time and effort required for simple tasks associated with a yo-yo business. QC, assembly, testing, putting strings on, boxing, packing for shipping, managing orders and shipping labels, etc. Something as simple as stringing up a yoyo becomes daunting when you’ve got 50-100 of them in front of you.
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Agreed, good point on the b grades, and yeah, it would have to be a huge labor of love to do a no profit run as I am sure it would be super time consuming.
Bless you, as your doing the labor of love already and actually taking a loss. Means more than you know to this community
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200 is also a big run for a yoyo I think? I feel like most companies do much smaller runs than that which can affect the price a lot.
One other cost to consider, you have to prototype and each proto run can be pretty expensive and you may have to through multiple iterations before you are ready to order the big run.
I just ordered a prototype run of 3 yo-yos of a design of mine, not through FPM, through a different machine shop (using a material that to the best of my knowledge has never been used to make a yoyo before so it wasn’t available through FPM) the 3 protos cost me $83.83 per piece. Going to a run of 50 brings it down to $28.14 each but what if the design sucked or didn’t work right? Or what if this material doesn’t work out as planned for me and the axles all melt axles melting isn’t applicable to your mono metal but prototyping would be.
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