New to offstring, what should I do?

What tips, tricks, string, and anything else should I know about offstring yoyoing?

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  • Use normal sized string, I know people who think longer string will give them longer spins and easier whips, it really doesn’t do anything but make it hard to control the whips or binds.

  • Make sure you are used to the height you’ll be playing at, If you play with in a low ceiling house (As I do) You have to change your throw accordingly.

  • Don’t be afraid to drop the yoyo. You wont learn any new tricks or combos by being hesitant that the yoyo will fly off and crack or break on the ground, even things like the YYJ Equinox is a sturdy piece of kit (It may not feel like it, but it is).

  • Have fun with it, like any yoyo, don’t get bogged down if you can’t do the Arm Orbit. I must have just spent the first week with my off string yoyo just playing with bounces, nothing fancy like a cross arm toss, but the single string bounce and binds.


  • Use the learn section on this website, Andre did a good job of covering the basics. Once you’re ready to move up in the world, check out Ben Conde’ tutorials. Once you have a feel for a fair few of those don’t be afraid to try out Monkey Finger Design as they have some fairly unseen tricks.

  • Work with bounces before whipping. It may be different for you, but my biggest hurdle was bouncing and aiming for the string, with 1A you don’t really have a problem aiming - as long as you can give the yoyo force it will usually come to the string (Think kwyijbo motion) - with 4A there isn’t any force you can put onto the yoyo for it to return to the string.


  • As I said in the tips, keep it short, use whatever length you would use for 1A and increase it by and inch or maybe two depending on what you link. Don’t go all out and use a full length kitty string, unless of course that’s what you use on 1A.

  • Most off string yoyos should bind with normal sized string, Kitty Normal works for me, but if your yoyo has a big string gap you may want to try Kitty fat. I usually use YoYo String Lab type 2 on my 4A throws but I have used Toxic Metz Thick as well. I prefer type 2 but I did see some really good binds with my Metz.
    (What I’m trying to say is that any string will work, use what you prefer)

That’s all the tips I can think of right now, as a closing note let me say, I absolutely love 4A throwing and hope you do as well. I feel it’s the most rewarding when you finally get the whip down so that you catch it every time, it just feels better than 1A (probably just for me).

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that pretty much covers it
but ben conde did do the basics as well, so if you want to just start with his videos you can.
And be prepared to run after your yoyo. a lot.

The one thing I would add is be patient with yourself. Don’t overdo it and stress out, remember its supposed to be fun. It will take a while for you to get anything consistent, as with 1a. Remember how long it took to get your 1a bind consistent, be patient and have fun. I agree, check out Ben Conde, he covers the basics really well.

Classic resource that still is absolutely perfect for those wanting to learn.
Also, I recommend watching lots of 4A freestyles, especially those from 06 and before, lots of things that newer players can pick up and understand without being daunted and intimidated by the crazy regens and horizontal grinds and whatnot of today.

Good luck!

Awroof! ^ ^


Thanks so much guys! Also, would you recommend any yoyos? I have a fiesta xx and am thinking of getting another yoyo when this one inevitably breaks. Should I stay with the fiesta or experiment with others? Also, any mods that you prefer on your 4a throws?

I prefer my off string throws to be delrin, I really enjoy the feel and it grinds amazingly.

If you’re looking to spend a bit on an off string I’d say you couldn’t go wrong with Solar+ by C3, the way that C3 has created this yoyo means it can hold a C sized bearing (none of this narrow bearing or YYJ Slim stuff) but still have the gap as small as the gap on a go big for easy regens.

Some others that I haven’t tried out are - Adegel roc or Whale

If you wanted to stick with YYJ, they have some nice ones, Equinox, Go Big, You could grab an Aquarius on the BST (Discontinued).

In this thread, Dynikus has made a list of most of the 4a throws, there may be one or two missing but it’s pretty complete.

you should probally keep the fiesta but you should try other 4a yo-yos

I wouldn’t recomment the roc or whale for a beginner, the binds and throw are very very different from any other 4a I’ve played with. This is a good alternative to get you going, its shaped like the big yo, but smaller with a silicone response. C bearing and comes with shims to make a wider gap if you want.

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One suggestion would be yo-yo jam’s “Big Yo”. It’s very large, and it has about a 1 minute spin time with a good throw. I think it would be great to start with, because I’ve dropped it a lot, and it hasn’t broken yet – it’s plastic and durable…but not great for grinding on the hand. I’m new to offspring, and the “Big Yo” has gotten me through a good majority of the Yo -Yo Expert tutorials. Also, if you don’t like the yo-yo, and don’t tend to use it much, you can always attach a string to it and have a semi-responsive LARGE yo-yo!! :slight_smile:

Sadly, every link I try on here 404’s : /

If you replace the orings with silicone, clean the bearing, and don’t tighten it all the way, it’s actually unresponsive, and quite fun for 1a.

Go Big is a great throw