Tried to buy an RSO from @Saltylongnek. Sent payment 2 weeks ago, never sent tracking info. They stopped responding to my messages about a week ago. Had to open a case up with PayPal. Use G&S folks!
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Woof, I message them again yesterday and told 'em I’d wait another 48 hours… but then I saw this post.
I sent them payment 2 weeks ago for an RSO (prototype delrin* Bowl) and they confirmed receipt of payment but has not provided tracking or proof of shipment, despite promises that it has shipped.
Also, no package has arrived, big sad… hopefully it’s all a misunderstanding but it seems otherwise at this point.
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if you’re filing a claim with paypal, be ready to ‘escalate’ the claim. if the other user has a response for paypal, that’s what will likely have to happen.
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As I remember, PayPal asks you to reach out to the seller with them tagged. Then you need to escalate the dispute if you have not received a satisfactory reply. I think they ask you to wait two weeks for a reply before escalating.
Good and Services is a small price for insurance.
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@jhb8426 any chance this is yet another scammer from the same group as bot? They’re also a new-ish user.
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Not likely, IP indicates a Charter Communication account in Texas. No evidence of a link to that group.
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That’s a minor relief, especially since I was a fool and sent funds via Venmo.
I was jaded, but now it seems my easy life of smooth BSTs has ended 
Not like that makes it easier to get my money back… but at least it’s less likely this was some known scammer that I fell victim to and that gives me some relief.
They tried to get me to use Venmo as well after they said the funds I sent to their PayPal were on hold (my read was PayPal automatically holds funds sent to new sellers for a certain time frame in case of disputes). They then refunded me and asked me to send payment to “their wife’s” PayPal. Maybe a red flag in retrospect, though the fact they issued a refund (and it went through) for the first attempt would be odd if it was a scam. 
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They offered me Apple Pay at first, but I don’t have such things so I offered otherwise.
The alleged wife got my money via Venmo. I’ll be requesting a refund and seeing what happens, but ToS from Venmo says unless they willingly grant the refund, I am out of luck.
That is why you should never use Venmo. Once gone; it is gone.
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I’m still curious why we don’t have a system similar to the old YYE/YYN trade feedback. Anyone could go to your profile, see how many trades you’ve made, and read the feedback associated with each trade. It was generally agreed upon that if someone had 2 trades and someone had 100, the person with 2 should send the money/yoyo first and the person with 100 wouldn’t send their side until receipt of payment. It worked so much better than this convoluted system where we have to manually search for a user in Buy / Sell / Trade > Traders Feedback and search through each thread to see how each individual trade went. I understand using F&F/Venmo with a clearly active and trusted member of the community still has its risks, but this seems like a no-brainer to use G&S given how ‘bare’ his account is.
And this is not just me being salty you can’t see my 200+ trade history 
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I miss the old system. I’ve been around for 18 years now and have maybe two posts on a feedback thread
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This would be wonderful, I smell a feature request!
So far, no update on a refund for me. I submitted a request so we’ll see what happens.
I’m not holding my breath
C’est la ger.
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I had at one point one of the highest numbers of positive feedback on the forum with records of BST deals back to the start of the forum.
The loss of all of those was honestly one of the worse things to ever happen øn this forum for sure.
I’ve made more deals since then but only 4 people have ever actually left feedback for me on that new thread system which is really unfortunate
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Interesting! How did it keep track of what deals were done? Did you just have to manually enter them yourself? Do you know why they change it?
Here’s a snapshot of the YYN’s trade feedback system.
Buyer/sellers had to manually enter the details.
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It was a significant extra cost to develop that on this forum.
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The current feedback system makes it difficult to get comprehensive insight into someone’s track record without reading tens, possibly hundreds of posts. Having little/no track record is not an overly helpful indication in this system either, as most people don’t leave feedback anymore. Additionally, a lot of feedback is just vapidly positive. I think we need to have more incentive to give others constructive criticism. Some sellers & buyers could improve this or that, and I think that being more transparent about those issues would strengthen our community and our resilience against bad actors.
Now, a good feedback system might be difficult to design, but implementing it really shouldn’t be very hard at all. It calls into question Discourse’s suitability if it’s really that inflexible.
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I also wonder if Claude code (etc) now makes the cost/effort of designing and implementing a new feedback system like this much more manageable.
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I think it would be easy to build a lookaside system that finds feedback threads, classifies and counts transactions, rates as positive or negative, and then assigns a rating out of 5 stars. It could probably host easily on a free tier cloud provider since our community isn’t huge.
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