Markmont flat rim series hype

Unfortunately no nickel : /

Thanks for the precision, having played neither of these throws, I’ll research and read a bit about each.

The Black Canon, on the other hand… no more information needed to know that I need one, lol!

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Get Hyped new Deeper State?

https://www.instagram.com/p/CDew4CJhZP0/

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Please do an olive drab MP2 :pray:

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I love that hub design

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Legit Hype Deeper State of soul

https://www.instagram.com/p/CDhO87rBhcv/?igshid=tnwp2njkqye1

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This thing is gonna be :fire::fire::fire::fire::fire:

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So the Deeper State competes directly with the Black Canon? You mean they’re going to make me choose between the two? Ugh.

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The Black Canon has Side Effects

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Black Canon has low walls and a stepped gap, looks like it would be more for unresponsive play. Deeper State has much higher walls and is geared for responsive play, like the Deep State. So no need to choose between the two - Get both!

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Yeah looking at the photos I assumed the Black Canon was for unresponsive play. Then read in the instagram description that it “Functions well as a trainer and casual jammer in both responsive and unresponsive setups” which I thought is what the Deep State can also do. I presume the Deeper State will continue to do as well. I do like the higher walls on the Deep/Deeper State though.

I might end up getting both in the end :man_facepalming:

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Hyped to see a Deeper State Ryosuke Kawamura One Drop trick video soon

https://www.instagram.com/p/CDk_xlwB1S9/?igshid=91fhfwsoop23

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You think those Deeper State spikes are sharp enough for Matador play?

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Pull Starts all the way

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I sure hope so!!!

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Lot more Deeper State photos on OD’s flickr page

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Takatsu Tsukasa Hype getting responsively Deeper with #thingsthatrepeat

https://www.instagram.com/p/CDnFOBshC5Y/?igshid=vl5rdj2fj2xq

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Literally (1) gram in any yoyo design can change the play drastically. Def know that Deeper State and Black Canon play largely different. And yes both can take diff bearing setups for either responsive or unresponsive play. Black Canon more suitable for full unresponsive play based on the little gap ‘nubby nub’. Deeper State better for response based on the high walls. Looks like it would Shoot the Moon like a champ as well.

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Exactly! Or 1/2 gram, or 1/4 gram in the right spot. Or a slight response change. Etc.

There’s fewer metal slim-lines out there, which can end up shining a spotlight on their similarities rather than their differences.

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Yeah I haven’t seen the specs of either one yet…just mainly going off the photos of each. I certainly agree that even 1 gram can make yoyos play differently.

Both you and @YoYoExpertGarrett are pointing out the same details (step/nubby nub) making the Black Canon better for unresponsive whereas the Deeper State is better for responsive. That was my first thought as well; then I saw the instagram mentioning the BC could also do responsive so I figured I’d ask, that’s all.

I like the look of both of them, but I’ve been buying a lot of yoyos lately trying catch up after years away from playing, so I was trying to convince myself I didn’t need to get both :grin:

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