Hey folks can anyone who has a grail quickly confirm if this seems like legit OG grail?
Seems like it to me from my research just wanted another pair of eyes on it
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Looks like it, but would need more pics to tell for sure for sure. Iām the one who made the āfake Grailā thread, so read through that, become enlightened on the differences between real and fake, and maybe ask the seller for more pics and examine with a more informed perspective.
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Awesome thanks Spence!
I had thatās why I was on the concerned side but based on what I could tell on careful observation on your post and your insight specific added I feel fine to āgambleā as I donāt have first one to compare
thanks again I appreciate it!
edit: rats someone snatched both from the listed moments before! atleast can better tell difference now lol
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Looks like a pyramatte finish and One Drop are the only ones who do that finish. Definitely looks legit.
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Almost bought this one but had to tell myself I needed to chill for a bit.
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That rim/lip makes it look more like a Dale.
The grail rim looks thinner.
Need a higher resolution / more pictures.
I can provide a grail/dale side by side tonight.
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Bearing seat is a fool proof way to tell, not to start that debate againā¦
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Why donāt you contact Charles Haycock?
Obviously, just a visual isnāt everythingā¦ But that being said, Charles has seen enough of them, that he might look at that image. And it will either register as genuine or heāll see something that will immediately make him decide thereās something funny about it?
Iāll contact him for you and send him a link or just the image copied and pasted.
Iām pretty certain he wouldnāt want you to get a knock off more than youād wanna buy one. So it wonāt hurt to hit him up for some possible feedback. Iāll do it right now.
Update> I sent a message to Charles via Instagram with the link. I also sent the link to him directly at his site. He certainly is a busy guy, but he does check messages. We will see it shouldnāt take long or itāll take forever.
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Charles got back to me already.
He said he couldnāt come up with a definitive answer based on that one image.
But he did say a few things, one of which was already observed by skysurviel>
Charles said the rims looked a little thicker more like a Dale. He also mentioned that the yo-yo in the image has a shiny looking finish Like a B7.
He also said something I found pretty interesting, but you have to have the yo-yo in hand to check it out. Charles said that you take the yo-yo apart and see if you could easily remove the bearing using just your fingers and yet when the bearing is on the yo-yo half You can wiggle it and thereās no play. He said one drop machine the Grails In one of their trademarks is obviously the closest thing to a perfect bearing fit. He said if you canāt get the bearing off with your fingers easily, that strike one right there.
Unfortunately, without having a yo-yo in your hands, you donāt have the opportunity to check or uncheck that box.
He said somebody sent him a bootleg just for reference, but he canāt seem to find it right now. But he did suggest if nothing else a few more images might help.
Itās going on one in the morning over here where Iām at in Southern California. Iāve decided to adopt my uncle Jimās cat on account of because, he dropped dead on me on September 19th, And I finally got tired of driving by his house in another town just to feed the cat lol
And then a few weeks ago when I went to pick up some mail at his house, I went into the backyard and walked right into a little crew of coyotes that were trying to decide if one cat was enough for lunch?
In a few minutes, Iāll be going over to My other house to feed the cat and go downstairs room that I dedicated to nothing but my 1500 and something yo-yos. At least a few of them are Grails. And I canāt wait to take one out and stare at that edge and compare it to the one in that image. Iāll try to simulate that image at that approximate distance to do an edge thickness comparison. Obviously Iām not Sherlock Holmes so I may be full of beans on this one? But I guess it is possible if I could take an image similar to that hand holding the yo-yo , That it might just be obvious whether it is or isnāt a bootleg? Be back soonā¦ā¦
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Well, I couldnāt capture the āhandheld yoyo imageā, so Iāll just post up a few Grail images in my light box.
Both green and orange are Grails and weigh 63.4 grams. They appear to have thinner rims(appear). But that may just be an optical illusion 
This next image is the 2 Grails and the custom ano job measures out as a Grail but only weighs 62. Grams. The Pink yoyo is a B7. Same shape, diameter, width, but weighs just 62 gramsš
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I hope itās real my friend, Iām definitely wanting one after playing the Delrin version
Hi @skysurveil
I couldnāt help but notice you have a real Grail. I donāt suppose you want to part with it? 
@yoyodoc
Thanks for all your help. Iāll keep you in touch with the saga.
Good on you for looking after your Uncleās cat.
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