Controlling a fingerspin

Interesting. My premise might have a flaw, then-- my assumption was that there was no shock to absorb, or at least not in the way that a bent finger could absorb shock. And this seemed to be supported by Kerbel (and probably others) spinning yoyos on rigid items with absolutely no shock absorption at all.

But maybe I was wrong.

I find that I can only do this with my Horizon. My finger wont find the center on other yoyo’s i have that have a flat hub. No other yoyo has demonstrated this vibrating finger effect for me. I’m sure anything with a similar hub like the Move would do it too.

I totally agree with you on the finger nail thing. Bending your finger slightly so that it rides on your finger nail is important even with the horizon for me.

Something else that helps me on non concave hubs is catching the yoyo slightly off level so that you are on the edge kinda like a grind. Seems more stable for me in a lot of situations than trying to center my finger in a flat hub. This especially helps on yoyos with a nub in the middle of the hub.

Absolutely. You can’t expect 1-minute spins with this technique, but it works well.

I find this video helps a lot https://m.youtube.com/index?&desktop_uri=%2F#/watch?v=oPvvCVtBzYk

I’m beginning to wonder if the Move is just harder to control. One thing different about it is that a lot of its weight is placed toward the center. It moves fast for sure but seems like it’s not very stable compared to the Elysian which I’ve had much better luck with a stiff finger, riding the very tip of my finger.

Maybe needs breaking in but man those pads are grabby, almost had my eye taken out numerous times now from the Move.

You need to balance it like a spin top. Soft finger helps, but that’s not the real trick behind it. That’s not how to control it.

^^ Wait, now… now this is a tip I’ve missed that shows some promise. :slight_smile: . Move your finger in a circle, too? I gotta start trying to get the hang of this. I can’t even picture getting the knack yet.

Just to muddy the conversation up a little more, I don’t make contact with my nail to the yoyo during a fingerspin. Fingernail fingerspins seem more popular, but I’ve even read some people say they prefer fingertip fingerspins with little or no nail. I have to do them this way since I don’t have long enough nails. You can do them using only your fingertip and get really pretty good results with some practice, even if the skin contact makes the yoyo die quicker than nail contact would.

One thing I consider key with fingerspins is keeping your finger loose. A stiffened finger makes the yoyo shoot right off my finger after only a spin or two. I let my finger move with and be controlled by the yoyo in small movements and that seems to help.

Most recent face bashing was finger spinning with an Irony Jpx with a dirty bearing. That yoyo is number 2 to the Horizon for finger spins out of the yoyos I have.

An update, something I’m finding that works with the move is kind of pulling the string when it starts to spiral out of control. I also kind of moved my finger around to “feel around” for the center.

The Elysian is a piece of cake now to spin after trying to spin the Move. I was even starting to spin my Shutter.

With all of this said I’m going to keep practicing it. I see a strong throw helps a lot.

Maybe I forgot how to internet, but I can’t get this video to work…

Here it is, cleaned up:

It’s the Paul Kerbel video.

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You don’t actively have to do it once the yo-yo is balanced and upright. A soft finger will keep it there. But when controlling it to get it into that position, doing slow circles in sync with the procession of the yo-you will get it upright. Remember, move away from where the yo-yo is leaning.

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^ This. Mr Gumball I spent yesterday evening experimenting with my MOVE to try and figure out how to help, and I came to the following conclusion:

Your finger must be kept as soft and relaxed as possible to begin with. As Brian said, once it’s in the dimple spinning you don’t have to keep it soft (I was spinning my MOVE on a pen yesterday like Greg mentioned and had no issue), however for the first jump, you have to keep it as loose as possible.

Now this is easier said that done. Since you’re aiming your finger for the yoyo, the natural reaction is to ‘point’ the finger or otherwise keep it rigid (even unintentionally), but as long as you keep it completely relaxed, the move will naturally slip onto the dimple.

I tried landing like 20 fingerspins in a row with a stiff finger and didn’t land a single one. Did the same thing with a relaxed finger and landed all 20 easily. It really is the key. :slight_smile:

Also, I don’t mean to be critical, but I noticed in your instagram video that the way you throw for the fingerspin seems to be the same way I did to begin with, which doesn’t work all that well. If you throw it with your thumb pointing up, sort of like a frizbee, then you can keep the yoyo as horizontal as possible (which is also very important).

Rather than throwing it to your left hand side, try holding the yoyo to your left and throwing it towards your right foot. It took me a while to get the hang of it but it makes all the difference.

If I’m not making any sense please let me know and I’ll film a video. :slight_smile:

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Just so that I’m not trying for the impossible, I’d like to understand a thing:

I have a yoyo with a flat hub. Say, an OG Pulsefire or a Krown or an Irony JP.

If the yoyo stays at a slight tilt, I can fingerspin for a decent amount of time, riding on the “transition” between the flat hub and the cup walls. Eventually, it goes completely horizontal and then the whole thing falls apart.

If I throw completely horizontally and hop up, the whole thing falls apart.

With a flat hub, is it virtually impossible to get those 1-minute spins? I have always assumed so, but it looks like other people are disagreeing and I wanted to make sure my understanding was correct.

Or in other words, it seems to me that you don’t really WANT to go fully horizontal with a flat hub. You’re just asking to spin out, and you should probably finish off your fingerspin trick before that happens. However, you DO want to go fully horizontal with something with a concave cup or with a “channel” (ie. Mo-Vitation).

Is that a fair assessment, or is it just that I’m still not “getting” flat-hub fingerspinning? With the flat hub, it wobbles out almost as soon as it’s fully horizontal for me.

So is the Too HOT good for fingerspins?
I was thinking of learning it, but I don’t want to bang my head against the wall too much…

I use it for fingerspins, but only those slightly off-axis ones. Not for a persistent 30-second or 1-minute spin.

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A pen is a solid thing, sure, but if he hold it soft enough, it can balance itself out just like relaxed finger. It’s not a matter of how rigid it is, but if it has “wobble range” wide enough to balance itself.
Do you have a top loaded washing machine? because it works just like that. It has some kind of springs so the clothes inside doesn’t have to be too balanced, the springs allow it to balance itself out. If there is no spring, the whole washing machine will wobble too much it may tip off or break its axle.

Anybody?

Send me one of those throws and I’ll try it out :stuck_out_tongue: