# Zorro's 2014 Freestyle Contest **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [March 5, 2014, 11:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388 "2014-03-05T23:24:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Palli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/palli/32/105_2.png) [@Palli](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Palli)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2014, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/62 "2014-03-07T21:10:54Z")
Since this is an online contest this has to be judged differently than a Live on stage performance. Here are some of my thoughts(conisdering if we were to use the new IYYF rules). Cleanliness is pretty much useless since you can just film until you get a clean freestyle, this will be kept in mind though and graded in the control category below. Space use is also kinda weird if you are not on a stage. Here is my idea for a judging system slightly based of the official IYYF rules but a lot more simplified. 10%Variety: variety of concepts used, different kind of tricks 10%Rareness: originality,newness and creativity 10%Music use: Going to the rhythm of the beat, choreography to music, music cues 10%Control: This is a combination of the execution and body control grading systems from the IYYF rules, this is how good control you have over the yoyo and how smoothly you execute your tricks 60% Tech: plus and minus clicks most people know how this works. Positive clicks for string hits and other trick elements, harder elements can give multiple clicks, negatives for misses and loss of control. Repeated elements will score less clicks or not at all if repeated too frequently. Major Deducts: -1 restart, -3 discard(probably wont need them though since you get unlimited tries filming) Please tell what you think about this(or recommend a whole other system) and give ideas what we can do to make it better, especially Zorro since it’s his contest :P. ---
**Author:** ![Zorro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zorro/32/206266_2.png) [@Zorro](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zorro)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2014, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/63 "2014-03-07T21:45:19Z")
> [@Palli](#): > > I registered as a Judge for 1a and 3a(I could do more if requested) > I have good judging experience since I judged multiple divisions at UK nationals 2 times and spanish nationals once. > [@Palli](#): > > Since this is an online contest this has to be judged differently than a Live on stage performance. > Here are some of my thoughts(conisdering if we were to use the new IYYF rules). > > Cleanliness is pretty much useless since you can just film until you get a clean freestyle, this will be kept in mind though and graded in the control category below. > > Space use is also kinda weird if you are not on a stage. > > Here is my idea for a judging system slightly based of the official IYYF rules but a lot more simplified. > > 10%Variety: variety of concepts used, different kind of tricks > 10%Rareness: originality,newness and creativity > 10%Music use: Going to the rhythm of the beat, choreography to music, music cues > 10%Control: This is a combination of the execution and body control grading systems from the IYYF rules, this is how good control you have over the yoyo and how smoothly you execute your tricks > 60% Tech: plus and minus clicks most people know how this works. Positive clicks for string hits and other trick elements, harder elements can give multiple clicks, negatives for misses and loss of control. Repeated elements will score less clicks or not at all if repeated too frequently. > Major Deducts: -1 restart, -3 discard(probably wont need them though since you get unlimited tries filming) > > Please tell what you think about this(or recommend a whole other system) and give ideas what we can do to make it better, especially Zorro since it’s his contest :P. Brilliant, glad you could help out. As for the judging system. This is also brilliant. I believe I have found the judging system. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MYNAMEISZen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@MYNAMEISZen](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MYNAMEISZen)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2014, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/64 "2014-03-07T21:57:40Z")
Palli be a judge! ---
**Author:** ![Zorro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zorro/32/206266_2.png) [@Zorro](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zorro)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2014, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/65 "2014-03-07T21:58:51Z")
> [@MYNAMEISZen](#): > > Palli be a judge! He already is ---
**Author:** ![cbaxt98](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/cbaxt98/32/14060_2.png) [@cbaxt98](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/cbaxt98)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2014, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/66 "2014-03-07T22:11:19Z")
[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVDS2Wsq3ZQ) ---
**Author:** ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2014, 10:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/67 "2014-03-07T22:14:32Z")
> [@Chase Baxter](#): > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVDS2Wsq3ZQ](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVDS2Wsq3ZQ) Has the contest started yet? EDIT oh can you take my name off the registered list? ---
**Author:** ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2014, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/68 "2014-03-07T22:17:13Z")
> [@Palli](#): > > Since this is an online contest this has to be judged differently than a Live on stage performance. > Here are some of my thoughts(conisdering if we were to use the new IYYF rules). > > Cleanliness is pretty much useless since you can just film until you get a clean freestyle, this will be kept in mind though and graded in the control category below. > > Space use is also kinda weird if you are not on a stage. > > Here is my idea for a judging system slightly based of the official IYYF rules but a lot more simplified. > > 10%Variety: variety of concepts used, different kind of tricks > 10%Rareness: originality,newness and creativity > 10%Music use: Going to the rhythm of the beat, choreography to music, music cues > 10%Control: This is a combination of the execution and body control grading systems from the IYYF rules, this is how good control you have over the yoyo and how smoothly you execute your tricks > 60% Tech: plus and minus clicks most people know how this works. Positive clicks for string hits and other trick elements, harder elements can give multiple clicks, negatives for misses and loss of control. Repeated elements will score less clicks or not at all if repeated too frequently. > Major Deducts: -1 restart, -3 discard(probably wont need them though since you get unlimited tries filming) > > Please tell what you think about this(or recommend a whole other system) and give ideas what we can do to make it better, especially Zorro since it’s his contest :P. That looks good. ---
**Author:** ![Zorro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zorro/32/206266_2.png) [@Zorro](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zorro)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2014, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/69 "2014-03-07T22:45:44Z")
> [@stuarttw](#): > > Has the contest started yet? > EDIT oh can you take my name off the registered list? You can submit videos whenever you wish. Judging just does not start until I decide it’s time (which I have not done yet). ---
**Author:** ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2014, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/70 "2014-03-07T23:02:40Z")
> [@Zorro](#): > > You can submit videos whenever you wish. Judging just does not start until I decide it’s time (which I have not done yet). Okay. ---
**Author:** ![MYNAMEISZen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@MYNAMEISZen](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MYNAMEISZen)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2014, 11:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/71 "2014-03-07T23:51:05Z")
If no one has submitted there 1A video yet I think it would be awesome if we could do a Prelim round for 1A since there will be so many people. ---
**Author:** ![Zorro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zorro/32/206266_2.png) [@Zorro](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zorro)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2014, 12:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/72 "2014-03-08T00:26:52Z")
> [@MYNAMEISZen](#): > > If no one has submitted there 1A video yet I think it would be awesome if we could do a Prelim round for 1A since there will be so many people. I am planning on it. Just not quite yet. Even if final videos are submitted, they can just be used if that person makes it to the finals. ---
**Author:** ![YoNacho](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yonacho/32/1465_2.png) [@YoNacho](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoNacho)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2014, 4:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/73 "2014-03-08T04:02:43Z")
Do you think that you could have an intermediate division for all of us throwers who aren’t as good as the experts or professionals on this forum? I think it would just help to have a fair contest, instead of mixing in the experienced throwers with the new ones. ---
**Author:** ![Bcmaddog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bcmaddog/32/1170_2.png) [@Bcmaddog](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Bcmaddog)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2014, 4:17am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/74 "2014-03-08T04:17:04Z")
> [@YoNacho](#): > > Do you think that you could have an intermediate division for all of us throwers who aren’t as good as the experts or professionals on this forum? > > I think it would just help to have a fair contest, instead of mixing in the experienced throwers with the new ones. I would be up to judging if we did one of these 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Erik\_kerber](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/erik_kerber/32/7939_2.png) [@Erik\_kerber](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Erik_kerber)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2014, 4:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/75 "2014-03-08T04:42:13Z")
I don’t see a deadline for registration. I’m thinking about joining but I would like to know how long I have to decide ---
**Author:** ![Zorro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zorro/32/206266_2.png) [@Zorro](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zorro)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2014, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/76 "2014-03-08T15:32:49Z")
> [@Erik\_kerber](#): > > I don’t see a deadline for registration. > > I’m thinking about joining but I would like to know how long I have to decide 3-4 Weeks probably. I want to keep it open for a long time because I am still getting a lot of people signing up. Usually, I got about 3 to 4 per day, so as long as that sticks, I am keeping it open. I actually got two people last night at around midnight. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Zorro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zorro/32/206266_2.png) [@Zorro](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zorro)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2014, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/77 "2014-03-08T15:36:00Z")
> [@YoNacho](#): > > Do you think that you could have an intermediate division for all of us throwers who aren’t as good as the experts or professionals on this forum? > > I think it would just help to have a fair contest, instead of mixing in the experienced throwers with the new ones. You give a very good point, however, that normally does not happen at contests. I still think I will do everyone together. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Yoyo\_Nerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea666f/32.png) [@The\_Yoyo\_Nerd](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/The_Yoyo_Nerd)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/78 "2014-03-08T16:07:43Z")
When is the deadline for prelims? ---
**Author:** ![Zorro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zorro/32/206266_2.png) [@Zorro](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zorro)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2014, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/79 "2014-03-08T16:51:11Z")
> [@The\_Yoyo\_Nerd](#): > > When is the deadline for prelims? I will decide that shortly. Look on the main post for deadlines. I will get them up sooner or later. I have been kind of busy. ---
**Author:** ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2014, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/80 "2014-03-08T17:02:39Z")
Gotta start practicing double d. Should be interesting ---
**Author:** ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2014, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/81 "2014-03-08T17:06:06Z")
> [@Zorro](#): > > You give a very good point, however, that normally does not happen at contests. I still think I will do everyone together. Actually there usually is an intermediate division. It’s called sports 1a or something else. It’s a 1 minute routine for beginners. [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388.md?page=5)