# Zorro's 2014 Freestyle Contest **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [March 5, 2014, 11:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388 "2014-03-05T23:24:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/302 "2014-03-18T18:51:11Z")
We have too many 1a, 3a, and 4a judges ---
**Author:** ![Zorro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zorro/32/206266_2.png) [@Zorro](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zorro)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/303 "2014-03-18T20:39:31Z")
Why is nobody submitting videos for this? I am tired of hosting a contest that people enter but don’t submit videos. Last contest I did I got one over half of all the videos this contest, the tallys are: 1A: 12/25 2A: 0/3 3A: 0/4 4A: 2/6 5A: 3/7 DD: 1/2 I need vids guys. You have two days. ---
**Author:** ![Nemyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nemyo/32/14407_2.png) [@Nemyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nemyo)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/304 "2014-03-18T20:45:31Z")
Frankly, I think the only qualified 1A judges are Mike Nak, Elliot, and Palli. This is really just because of their rankings and such. I know Colin and Chase to be good judges but I would not say theyre really qualified in contrast to the previously mentioned guys. I dont really know much about Zorro or Mouse, but I can take a good guess in saying they arent very qualified either. Just my opinion on the subject, and like previously mentioned, there are prizes now and I think this contest should be taken more seriously. ---
**Author:** ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/305 "2014-03-18T20:48:26Z")
> [@Zorro](#): > > Why is nobody submitting videos for this? I am tired of hosting a contest that people enter but don’t submit videos. Last contest I did I got one over half of all the videos this contest, the tallys are: > > 1A: 12/25 > 2A: 0/3 > 3A: 0/4 > 4A: 2/6 > 5A: 3/7 > DD: 1/2 > > I need vids guys. You have two days. Two days? Two days until prelims are over. ---
**Author:** ![Philip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Philip](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Philip)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/306 "2014-03-18T20:57:37Z")
> [@stuarttw](#): > > Two days? Two days until prelims are over. yeah, 7 days until 2a and 3a, right ---
**Author:** ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/307 "2014-03-18T21:00:47Z")
> [@Zorro](#): > > Why is nobody submitting videos for this? I am tired of hosting a contest that people enter but don’t submit videos. Last contest I did I got one over half of all the videos this contest, the tallys are: > > 1A: 12/25 > 2A: 0/3 > 3A: 0/4 > 4A: 2/6 > 5A: 3/7 > DD: 1/2 > > I need vids guys. You have two days. Well, you’ll have the finalists you need (btw, you might not have all the uploaded videos because people might not know where to post vids.) ---
**Author:** ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/308 "2014-03-18T21:31:43Z")
TURN UP VOLUME[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GoFXB19rq0&feature=youtu.be[b]TURN](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GoFXB19rq0&feature=youtu.be%5Bb%5DTURN) UP VOLUME[/b] TURN VOLUME UP ---
**Author:** ![azunyan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/43a26b/32.png) [@azunyan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/azunyan)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/309 "2014-03-18T22:41:23Z")
[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/d/e/c/dec1d13372c1a1ca696a0b26118135e837c5cc91.jpeg "zorro 2k14 video contest 2a azunyan") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtj_UbgnL0I) ---
**Author:** ![kulazndoode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kulazndoode/32/1251_2.png) [@kulazndoode](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kulazndoode)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/310 "2014-03-18T22:54:37Z")
Let the prelim videos pour in haha ---
**Author:** ![Nemyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nemyo/32/14407_2.png) [@Nemyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nemyo)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 11:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/311 "2014-03-18T23:03:28Z")
> [@Gambit](#): > > Gotcha, sounds good. > > Also, purely as a suggestion from an outside observers point of view, it would be really handy if the judges put the freestyles in descending order according to their scores, as is done in proper contests: > > [http://www.yojake.com/Mideast/Graphics/Results%20Sheets/4A%20Results%202013.png](http://www.yojake.com/Mideast/Graphics/Results%20Sheets/4A%20Results%202013.png) > > It just makes it easier to read and to figure out exactly where abouts people came. 🙂 But why did you have to use the 4a scores, lol I did so bad in that contest. You gotta use the 5a scores as a reference haha, I did good in that division 😛 ---
**Author:** ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 11:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/312 "2014-03-18T23:32:24Z")
> [@azunyan](#): > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtj\_UbgnL0I&feature=youtu.be](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtj_UbgnL0I&feature=youtu.be) Winner haha. ---
**Author:** ![Zorro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zorro/32/206266_2.png) [@Zorro](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zorro)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 11:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/313 "2014-03-18T23:37:02Z")
Look here everybody, I am not trying to be mean, but I have heard enough of this about the judging. This contest is for fun. The only reason prizes are here, is because Andre so graciously offered them. Just because of prizes, you all want to make the inexperienced judges leave? Why? They are (or at least I am) here to judge because I want the experience of judging an actual contest. This is the only one I can do without having some experience, so I might as well try it. We can also learn from this experience. It’s my contest, my system, I select the judges, and THAT IS FINAL! ---
**Author:** ![Bcmaddog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bcmaddog/32/1170_2.png) [@Bcmaddog](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Bcmaddog)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/314 "2014-03-18T23:52:28Z")
> [@Zorro](#): > > Look here everybody, I am not trying to be mean, but I have heard enough of this about the judging. > > This contest is for fun. The only reason prizes are here, is because Andre so graciously offered them. Just because of prizes, you all want to make the inexperienced judges leave? Why? They are (or at least I am) here to judge because I want the experience of judging an actual contest. This is the only one I can do without having some experience, so I might as well try it. We can also learn from this experience. > > It’s my contest, my system, I select the judges, and THAT IS FINAL! If your making the judging rules how are you going to learn then? And about the whole judging thing. You do not learn to judge by judging. Its like JD letting you take his place at the world yoyo contest just so you can “learn” how to do it. You watch/shadow a judge to learn. Not just take their place. Just like GregP said with the car. Its like having a rookie offer to do the job and the rookie isn’t qualified. Im sorry, I do not want to be mean at all. But we cant just have people judge because they want to “try it out.” They can “try it out” in a smaller contest, or something random meant for new judges. ---
**Author:** ![cbeckford](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@cbeckford](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/cbeckford)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/315 "2014-03-19T00:01:34Z")
> [@owngry](#): > > Frankly, I think the only qualified 1A judges are Mike Nak, Elliot, and Palli. This is really just because of their rankings and such. I know Colin and Chase to be good judges but I would not say theyre really qualified in contrast to the previously mentioned guys. I dont really know much about Zorro or Mouse, but I can take a good guess in saying they arent very qualified either. > > Just my opinion on the subject, and like previously mentioned, there are prizes now and I think this contest should be taken more seriously. In all honesty, Chase and I have as much judging as Elliot and Michael do. Just because you do better at a contest doesn’t make you qualified at all. Michael just judged his first contest, a smaller one, and recently Elliot, Chase and I have been practicing judging. Saying someone isn’t “qualified” compared to others is pretty rude considering that YOU DON’T KNOW. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![cbeckford](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@cbeckford](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/cbeckford)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/316 "2014-03-19T00:02:35Z")
> [@Zorro](#): > > Look here everybody, I am not trying to be mean, but I have heard enough of this about the judging. > > This contest is for fun. The only reason prizes are here, is because Andre so graciously offered them. Just because of prizes, you all want to make the inexperienced judges leave? Why? They are (or at least I am) here to judge because I want the experience of judging an actual contest. This is the only one I can do without having some experience, so I might as well try it. We can also learn from this experience. > > It’s my contest, my system, I select the judges, and THAT IS FINAL! Didn’t Palli make the system? ---
**Author:** ![Bcmaddog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bcmaddog/32/1170_2.png) [@Bcmaddog](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Bcmaddog)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 12:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/317 "2014-03-19T00:04:09Z")
> [@cbeckford](#): > > Didn’t Palli make the system? Yep. ---
**Author:** ![cbaxt98](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/cbaxt98/32/14060_2.png) [@cbaxt98](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/cbaxt98)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 12:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/318 "2014-03-19T00:25:24Z")
lol ---
**Author:** ![Bcmaddog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bcmaddog/32/1170_2.png) [@Bcmaddog](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Bcmaddog)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 12:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/319 "2014-03-19T00:26:01Z")
> [@Chase Baxter](#): > ---
**Author:** ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/320 "2014-03-19T00:43:30Z")
Really guys, it’s nothing to get all upset over. The best player will probably win anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Nemyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nemyo/32/14407_2.png) [@Nemyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nemyo)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 12:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388/321 "2014-03-19T00:51:52Z")
> [@cbeckford](#): > > In all honesty, Chase and I have as much judging as Elliot and Michael do. Just because you do better at a contest doesn’t make you qualified at all. Michael just judged his first contest, a smaller one, and recently Elliot, Chase and I have been practicing judging. Saying someone isn’t “qualified” compared to others is pretty rude considering that YOU DON’T KNOW. Thanks. Colin it wasnt meant to offend you dude, I was just trying to say they are just more recognized as yoyo “professionals.” Frankly,I regret even posting that because I like you and Chase. [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388.md?page=15) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zorros-2014-freestyle-contest/64388.md?page=17)