# Zero Vs The End Part II

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zero-vs-the-end-part-ii/455908>\
**Category:** Yo-Yo Reviews\
**Created:** [October 31, 2026, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zero-vs-the-end-part-ii/455908 "2026-10-31T16:12:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![Will](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/will/32/687327_2.png) [@Will](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Will)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2026, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zero-vs-the-end-part-ii/455908/1 "2026-10-31T16:12:37Z")

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I’m looking for a comparison of the At Design Lab Zero (52mm) and the RSO The End Part II (Finale).

Planning to track one down to be the Bapezilla replacement I’m dreaming of, but would like to know which people prefer.

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**Author:** ![Christianmckz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/christianmckz/32/99933_2.png) [@Christianmckz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Christianmckz)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2026, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zero-vs-the-end-part-ii/455908/2 "2026-10-31T18:24:08Z")

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Can’t go wrong. Both are great. No cons.

Buy both try them out, I’m sure you won’t have trouble reselling when you’re ready to pick a fav.

The finish options available from At.Design Lab are nice. Big fan of their Silky coating.

I own The End Prelude cause I like the acid wash “popcorn” colorway. Also package is fun, I keep all my RSO packaging on display cause the illustrations are great.

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**Author:** ![Will](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/will/32/687327_2.png) [@Will](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Will)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2026, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zero-vs-the-end-part-ii/455908/3 "2026-10-31T18:53:09Z")

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Buy both was exactly the answer I was hoping to avoid :joy:

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**Author:** ![hsb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hsb/32/193274_2.png) [@hsb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hsb)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2026, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zero-vs-the-end-part-ii/455908/4 "2026-10-31T19:25:25Z")

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I can’t really compare either to the Bapezilla, but one thing that I don’t 100% like about many At Design Lab retro-inspired designs is their “Shmoved ring”, which to my eye is close to a response bump.

 ![Half-Light-Gray-Half-Dark-Gray-Zero-Small-02.jpg](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/b/0/e/b0ef8c930cbaf029437fb5bc9662f29f6cf1d44e.webp)

It’s intentional, and may be an improvement to everyone except me. But depending on what you are looking for in a Bapezilla replacement, it may be worth considering. The End Part II’s Shmoove Groove seems a lot closer in this regard.

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**Author:** ![yoyojoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e99b99/32.png) [@yoyojoe](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyojoe)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2026, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zero-vs-the-end-part-ii/455908/5 "2026-10-31T19:46:00Z")

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I owned the zero, og bapezilla, mechabape , and the end pt2 at the same time. I felt like the end pt2 gave me the better machining with the closest feel. The zero is great but felt pretty different compared to the og bape. Mechabape with the side effects is great as well if you want to spend the money.