# Zero Gravity Return Tops - winglet yoyo **URL:** \ **Category:** Up & Coming Manufacturers\ **Created:** [May 24, 2020, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zero-gravity-return-tops-winglet-yoyo/320923 "2020-05-24T21:34:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![YoYoExpertGarrett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoexpertgarrett/32/1543_2.png) [@YoYoExpertGarrett](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoExpertGarrett)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2020, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zero-gravity-return-tops-winglet-yoyo/320923/21 "2020-05-25T23:05:47Z")
I assume you created this topic for some advice, but from the way you’re talking you seem pretty set on what you’ve made so idk. But if you want my 2 cents - I would reconsider the gap area before you start prototyping. I can already feel the string catching on that near 90 degree edge just from looking at it. And smooth out the rim - Same reason. ![Screen-Shot-2020-05-25-at-6.44](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/e/8/9/e89e468405007a278596537d069c4eb1b5a5b39e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Roy\_Dodge](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/roy_dodge/32/99408_2.png) [@Roy\_Dodge](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Roy_Dodge)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2020, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zero-gravity-return-tops-winglet-yoyo/320923/22 "2020-05-25T23:13:57Z")
I read this as an announcement of a forthcoming product that is pretty far advanced in development rather than a request for feedback on the throw itself. Not saying that anyone is wrong for sharing their thoughts, but I am guessing he hasn’t seemed overly receptive to recommended changes because he never asked for them. I will agree that what folks have said about fleshing out the rationale holds water. The yoyo market in general - including the “budget metal” part of it - is, quite honestly, glutted. Definitely need to find away to set a new product apart when there are so many - too many - choices when it comes to affordable monometal unresponsives. ---
**Author:** ![MarkD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/markd/32/40845_2.png) [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 12:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zero-gravity-return-tops-winglet-yoyo/320923/23 "2020-05-26T00:35:27Z")
> [@Roy\_Dodge](#): > > I read this as an announcement of a forthcoming product that is pretty far advanced in development rather than a request for feedback on the throw itself. Until the money has been sent to the machine shop there’s always time for feedback and changes. Revisions at this point are very, very inexpensive. The sort of feedback that @YoYoExpertGarrett gave is very valuable and should be heeded. He even caught something that I missed. ---
**Author:** ![Roy\_Dodge](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/roy_dodge/32/99408_2.png) [@Roy\_Dodge](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Roy_Dodge)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 1:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zero-gravity-return-tops-winglet-yoyo/320923/24 "2020-05-26T01:02:46Z")
All fair points. I won’t claim to know much about design, but what you and Garrett said make sense. I just felt that some folks jumped on him for not seeming open to suggestion and wanted to point out that I never perceived an invitation in the first place 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![YoYoExpertGarrett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoexpertgarrett/32/1543_2.png) [@YoYoExpertGarrett](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoExpertGarrett)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 2:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zero-gravity-return-tops-winglet-yoyo/320923/25 "2020-05-26T02:21:30Z")
Yeah, my bad if it came off harsh… Just my opinion on the whole topic. Since it’s still only a cad file I looked at it as just a work in progress. You never _really_ know how a yo-yo will play until you get the prototypes in. ---
**Author:** ![jeduardo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jeduardo/32/624173_2.png) [@jeduardo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jeduardo)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 3:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zero-gravity-return-tops-winglet-yoyo/320923/26 "2020-05-26T03:19:30Z")
Continuos improvement is better than a delayed perfection. Hence, feedback is always welcome. This project is coming to completion and I am happy and very excited about it. This journey brought me great experiences, learnings, personal satisfaction and, most importantly, fun! I never got tired in testing, designing, re-designing, starting over, thinking, etc. As master Yoda once said: “_Try not. Do or do not. There is no try_.” So… I did it. Thanks again! ---
**Author:** ![d4nnyb0yy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/d4nnyb0yy/32/101309_2.png) [@d4nnyb0yy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/d4nnyb0yy)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zero-gravity-return-tops-winglet-yoyo/320923/27 "2020-05-26T10:18:28Z")
> [@jeduardo](#): > > “ _Try not. Do or do not. There is no try_ .” So… I did it. @jeduardo congrats dude! Can’t wait to check it out! Also…excellent quote. ---
**Author:** ![Grapes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/grapes/32/64332_2.png) [@Grapes](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Grapes)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zero-gravity-return-tops-winglet-yoyo/320923/28 "2020-05-27T07:32:13Z")
When are we going to hear prices and pre-order options? ---
**Author:** ![jeduardo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jeduardo/32/624173_2.png) [@jeduardo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jeduardo)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zero-gravity-return-tops-winglet-yoyo/320923/29 "2020-05-27T14:39:44Z")
I am working on that as we speak. It should be ready this week. Take a look a my instagram, I posted some updates there. ---
**Author:** ![Grapes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/grapes/32/64332_2.png) [@Grapes](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Grapes)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zero-gravity-return-tops-winglet-yoyo/320923/30 "2020-05-27T14:44:20Z")
Thanks I am morally opposed to Instagram though so I’ll just wait here. ---
**Author:** ![ChrisFrancz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/chrisfrancz/32/48992_2.png) [@ChrisFrancz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ChrisFrancz)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 2:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zero-gravity-return-tops-winglet-yoyo/320923/31 "2020-05-27T14:49:41Z")
Me too. I hate Instagram, FB, Twitter. I’d rather be left out and / or find out late about stuff. Nothing could make me go back to those platforms. ---
**Author:** ![Grapes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/grapes/32/64332_2.png) [@Grapes](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Grapes)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zero-gravity-return-tops-winglet-yoyo/320923/32 "2020-05-27T14:51:33Z")
Yeah I only really use it as a marketing channel for my company and in my eyes that’s all they are good for, i.e. marketing channels for companies. In that light it’s totally valid that Zero Gravity uses it :wink: ---
**Author:** ![jeduardo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jeduardo/32/624173_2.png) [@jeduardo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jeduardo)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zero-gravity-return-tops-winglet-yoyo/320923/33 "2020-05-27T14:56:13Z")
Honestly, I am not a fan of instagram, but I need to have presence there. I will post some pics here. ---
**Author:** ![jeduardo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jeduardo/32/624173_2.png) [@jeduardo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jeduardo)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zero-gravity-return-tops-winglet-yoyo/320923/34 "2020-05-27T14:59:12Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/0/3/c/03cc4f9a26396f1968f9c17b956126a6ac4eb7b4.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/a/5/d/a5da9bb1fc2ed8761fdd9b14109fe8039b0dc150.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Grapes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/grapes/32/64332_2.png) [@Grapes](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Grapes)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zero-gravity-return-tops-winglet-yoyo/320923/35 "2020-05-27T15:13:36Z")
Lookin good! ---
**Author:** ![jeduardo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jeduardo/32/624173_2.png) [@jeduardo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jeduardo)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 12:56am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zero-gravity-return-tops-winglet-yoyo/320923/36 "2020-06-07T00:56:39Z")
some updates ![Screen Shot 2020-06-06 at 8.54.36 PM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/a/d/1/ad1e22dbc05bafa582cd31abe7a161877e8e87af.png) ![Screen Shot 2020-06-06 at 8.54.49 PM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/6/c/c6c210d337450b75e4c20e2e7db8a0298fbe9469.png) Release is coming soon. ---
**Author:** ![MarkD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/markd/32/40845_2.png) [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 12:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zero-gravity-return-tops-winglet-yoyo/320923/37 "2020-06-07T00:59:34Z")
Very cool! How does it play? ---
**Author:** ![jeduardo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jeduardo/32/624173_2.png) [@jeduardo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jeduardo)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zero-gravity-return-tops-winglet-yoyo/320923/38 "2020-06-07T01:00:36Z")
![Screen Shot 2020-06-06 at 8.59.15 PM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/e/b/0/eb0cf48aed4834881a54e4dd505eed846240c582.png) ---
**Author:** ![jeduardo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jeduardo/32/624173_2.png) [@jeduardo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jeduardo)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 1:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zero-gravity-return-tops-winglet-yoyo/320923/39 "2020-06-07T01:02:51Z")
It plays very nice! fast and stable, and very comfortable to the hand. ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 2:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/zero-gravity-return-tops-winglet-yoyo/320923/40 "2020-06-07T02:06:57Z")
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