# YYR Messiah vs Format: C
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyr-messiah-vs-format-c/69439
**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation
**Created:** [September 14, 2014, 1:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyr-messiah-vs-format-c/69439 "2014-09-14T01:55:43Z")
**Posts on this page:** 9
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### Author:  [@RiceKernel](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/RiceKernel)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2014, 1:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyr-messiah-vs-format-c/69439/1 "2014-09-14T01:55:43Z")
This is really a tough choice for me. The format c is by far the best yoyo I’ve handled. I got a yyr butcher and it feels … weird in my hand . Don’t like the feel of it too much. Performance wise, does the messiah perform better? because I might trade my format c for it.
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### Author:  [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2014, 2:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyr-messiah-vs-format-c/69439/2 "2014-09-14T02:02:46Z")
If you’re asking which one’s better performing, probably the Format:C. If you’re asking which one you will like more, nobody can tell you that 😛
You may like the play of the Format:C better, but I doubt that it’s better performing then the Butcher.
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### Author:  [@RiceKernel](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/RiceKernel)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2014, 2:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyr-messiah-vs-format-c/69439/3 "2014-09-14T02:46:20Z")
The Format C can spin for like 3 minutes easy. The butcher can barely spin for a minute ☹ I even try cleaning the bearing seat and what not but still the same ☹
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### Author:  [@live\_wire](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/live_wire)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2014, 2:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyr-messiah-vs-format-c/69439/4 "2014-09-14T02:51:05Z")
> [@RiceKernel](#):
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> The Format C can spin for like 3 minutes easy. The butcher can barely spin for a minute ☹ I even try cleaning the bearing seat and what not but still the same ☹
This should not be the case, the butcher should spin way longer than that.
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### Author:  [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2014, 3:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyr-messiah-vs-format-c/69439/5 "2014-09-14T03:04:01Z")
> [@RiceKernel](#):
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> The Format C can spin for like 3 minutes easy. The butcher can barely spin for a minute ☹ I even try cleaning the bearing seat and what not but still the same ☹
I just got 7 minutes on my Butcher
I can get more then 1 minute on a YYF ONE 😛
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### Author:  [@RiceKernel](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/RiceKernel)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2014, 3:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyr-messiah-vs-format-c/69439/6 "2014-09-14T03:16:47Z")
what how ☹
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### Author:  [@NathanC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/NathanC)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2014, 3:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyr-messiah-vs-format-c/69439/7 "2014-09-14T03:31:22Z")
You’d be hard pressed to find more different yoyos… Also the Mr. Butcher is well known for being the YYR most UNlike other YYR’s so don’t use that as a baseline.
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### Author:  [@josephadams183](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/josephadams183)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2015, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyr-messiah-vs-format-c/69439/8 "2015-03-01T16:25:22Z")
If the Format C is the best yoyo you’ve used then keep it. I can tell you that the Messiah is a great undersized yoyo, one of the best. However, unless you’re keen on getting an undersized yoyo I wouldn’t trade.
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### Author:  [@Rosenberg](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Rosenberg)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2015, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyr-messiah-vs-format-c/69439/9 "2015-03-01T20:41:45Z")
> [@NathanC](#):
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> You’d be hard pressed to find more different yoyos… Also the Mr. Butcher is well known for being the YYR most UNlike other YYR’s so don’t use that as a baseline.
This is true. The Messiah is great but it is undersized and on the solid side. I love it but it isn’t exactly comparable to the Format C. Personally I’d go Messiah, but that shouldn’t mean much to you and your choice.