# YYR help.. **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [March 18, 2012, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyr-help/35955 "2012-03-18T07:29:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Darxun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/darxun/32/957_2.png) [@Darxun](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Darxun)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2012, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyr-help/35955/1 "2012-03-18T07:29:29Z")
For people who have played one or both or all of these throws, which do you prefer over the other (pros and cons) I’m looking to pick one up for a talent show soon, so need a bit of help deciding 😛 All help is appreciated ;D ---
**Author:** ![888alltheway](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/888alltheway/32/798_2.png) [@888alltheway](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/888alltheway)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2012, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyr-help/35955/2 "2012-03-18T07:33:39Z")
Messiah is a solid, fast, full of energy performer. Gleip is heavy, ULTRA STABLE, but can go fast. Clash 2012 is plain awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Darxun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/darxun/32/957_2.png) [@Darxun](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Darxun)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2012, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyr-help/35955/3 "2012-03-18T07:44:16Z")
> [@888alltheway](#): > > Messiah is a solid, fast, full of energy performer. > > Gleip is heavy, ULTRA STABLE, but can go fast. > > Clash 2012 is plain awesome. I need something with a large catch zone but something that could move quickly threw tricks… Messiah? ---
**Author:** ![Swatnoodle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/swatnoodle/32/855_2.png) [@Swatnoodle](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Swatnoodle)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2012, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyr-help/35955/4 "2012-03-18T07:56:47Z")
Messiah is fast, but I wouldn’t say it has a big catch zone. The sleipner fits that profile better. the clash 2011 is also bery fast ---
**Author:** ![Darxun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/darxun/32/957_2.png) [@Darxun](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Darxun)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2012, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyr-help/35955/5 "2012-03-18T08:06:24Z")
> [@Swatnoodle](#): > > Messiah is fast, but I wouldn’t say it has a big catch zone. The sleipner fits that profile better. the clash 2011 is also bery fast Yea, I would definitely get a Sleipnir, but I don’t think many are being sold on the bst in mint condition… ---
**Author:** ![Swatnoodle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/swatnoodle/32/855_2.png) [@Swatnoodle](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Swatnoodle)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2012, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyr-help/35955/6 "2012-03-18T18:15:32Z")
Not many mint yyr are being sold. The dreadnought actually plays super light, and is also huge. ---
**Author:** ![sirnaq\_MN42](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sirnaq_mn42/32/613_2.png) [@sirnaq\_MN42](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sirnaq_MN42)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2012, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyr-help/35955/7 "2012-03-18T20:04:06Z")
> [@Swatnoodle](#): > > Not many mint yyr are being sold. The dreadnought actually plays super light, and is also huge. Yeah it is a sort of inside joke between me and my yoyo friends that the dreadnought is the heaviest yoyo that isn’t heavy. ---
**Author:** ![Swatnoodle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/swatnoodle/32/855_2.png) [@Swatnoodle](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Swatnoodle)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2012, 12:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyr-help/35955/8 "2012-03-19T00:45:24Z")
I forgot about the Overdrive. Lightest playing YYR with wide A$$ catch zone ---
**Author:** ![Darxun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/darxun/32/957_2.png) [@Darxun](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Darxun)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2012, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyr-help/35955/9 "2012-03-19T17:45:15Z")
> [@Swatnoodle](#): > > I forgot about the Overdrive. Lightest playing YYR with wide A$$ catch zone Thanks, I might have to see if I can find either that or a Sleipnir. If that doesn’t go well I’ll either get a Messiah or a Gleipnir ---
**Author:** ![Swatnoodle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/swatnoodle/32/855_2.png) [@Swatnoodle](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Swatnoodle)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2012, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyr-help/35955/10 "2012-03-19T20:04:39Z")
> [@Darxun](#): > > > [@Swatnoodle](#): > > > > I forgot about the Overdrive. Lightest playing YYR with wide A$$ catch zone > > Thanks, I might have to see if I can find either that or a Sleipnir. If that doesn’t go well I’ll either get a Messiah or a Gleipnir The Gleipner isn’t fast at all, so I’m not sure you would like it. ---
**Author:** ![Darxun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/darxun/32/957_2.png) [@Darxun](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Darxun)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyr-help/35955/11 "2012-03-20T23:09:55Z")
> [@Swatnoodle](#): > > > [@Darxun](#): > > > > > [@Swatnoodle](#): > > > > > > I forgot about the Overdrive. Lightest playing YYR with wide A$$ catch zone > > > > Thanks, I might have to see if I can find either that or a Sleipnir. If that doesn’t go well I’ll either get a Messiah or a Gleipnir > > The Gleipner isn’t fast at all, so I’m not sure you would like it. Yeah, that’s just if I can’t find any other YYR 😛