# YYJ Surge, or Legacy? **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [July 19, 2013, 1:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyj-surge-or-legacy/56693 "2013-07-19T01:09:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Varos79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7ea924/32.png) [@Varos79](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Varos79)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 1:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyj-surge-or-legacy/56693/1 "2013-07-19T01:09:06Z")
I have a Velocity that when completely unresponsive, I can bind no prob. I have an Ann Connoly Whip, but the center track bearing is giving me lots of trouble. I like the Velocity when it’s responsive, but it’s got a lot of vibe and noise. I like the feel of the Whip, and it would probably be fine with a standard bearing, but why buy a bearing when you can buy a new throw and swap them around? I’m thinking of buying either a Legacy II or a Surge, or maybe a Surge and a Classic. The dimensions of the Legacy are appealing, but at this point I’m just as interested in trying everything for variety. I might eventually buy all three, but for now let’s look at a budget of $24. Since the Surge and Classic are newer, and I’ve read tons of praise… are they better than the Legacy? In terms of stability and spin time? I know the Surge is on the heavy side, but does it spin longer and slower because of it? Thanks in advance! ---
**Author:** ![PerspectiveDesigns](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/perspectivedesigns/32/1288_2.png) [@PerspectiveDesigns](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PerspectiveDesigns)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 1:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyj-surge-or-legacy/56693/2 "2013-07-19T01:40:08Z")
I really like the Surge but ( sadly ) I haven’t tried any of the others. ---
**Author:** ![Casey888](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Casey888](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Casey888)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 2:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyj-surge-or-legacy/56693/3 "2013-07-19T02:06:57Z")
Get a surge. OR wait for a rally tonight. ---
**Author:** ![yoyo143](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyo143/32/1384_2.png) [@yoyo143](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyo143)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 2:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyj-surge-or-legacy/56693/4 "2013-07-19T02:13:38Z")
> [@kclejeune](#): > > Get a surge. OR wait for a rally tonight. ---
**Author:** ![sparhawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 2:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyj-surge-or-legacy/56693/5 "2013-07-19T02:53:00Z")
I really think the legacy is an overall terrible yoyo in my opinion ---
**Author:** ![Varos79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7ea924/32.png) [@Varos79](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Varos79)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 3:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyj-surge-or-legacy/56693/6 "2013-07-19T03:39:27Z")
The rally sounds great, but alas, I’ll wait until it is in the budget-- and, more importantly, that I am good enough to warrant it. That’s three for the Surge and one negative against the Legacy. I thought the Legacy was at least pretty decent. Thanks for the quick replies. ---
**Author:** ![mordo613](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mordo613/32/1373_2.png) [@mordo613](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mordo613)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyj-surge-or-legacy/56693/7 "2013-07-19T13:48:31Z")
> [@yoyo143](#): > > > [@kclejeune](#): > > > > Get a surge. OR wait for a rally tonight. U have given opinions on 17 yoyos the past 3 days with that whopping trade count how many yoyos do u have? Pushin a 100 yet? ---
**Author:** ![yoyo143](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyo143/32/1384_2.png) [@yoyo143](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyo143)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyj-surge-or-legacy/56693/8 "2013-07-19T18:37:19Z")
> [@mordo613](#): > > > [@yoyo143](#): > > > > > [@kclejeune](#): > > > > > > Get a surge. OR wait for a rally tonight. > > U have given opinions on 17 yoyos the past 3 days with that whopping trade count how many yoyos do u have? Pushin a 100 yet? u counted? Wow… So if I haven’t traded any yoyos, that means I have tried no yoyos? If you dont like my opinions, then dont read them. Go do something useful and stop calling me stupid. Do I have to reply with this ^ in every thread I post in now? ---
**Author:** ![nardcopter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nardcopter/32/1335_2.png) [@nardcopter](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nardcopter)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyj-surge-or-legacy/56693/9 "2013-07-19T20:04:08Z")
> [@yoyo143](#): > > > [@mordo613](#): > > > > > [@yoyo143](#): > > > > > > > [@kclejeune](#): > > > > > > > > Get a surge. OR wait for a rally tonight. > > > > U have given opinions on 17 yoyos the past 3 days with that whopping trade count how many yoyos do u have? Pushin a 100 yet? > > u counted? Wow… > So if I haven’t traded any yoyos, that means I have tried no yoyos? If you dont like my opinions, then dont read them. Go do something useful and stop calling me stupid. > > Do I have to reply with this ^ in every thread I post in now? Don’t yell at him. It is a fishy situation. The fact that you own 3 yoyos, 1 high end, and you apparently have evaluated many, many more. You also said the Summit is heavy and slow in another thread, and said a General Yo in another thread was a 6/10 “ehhh”. So don’t blame us if we ask you about it, it is a reasonable question. And not everyone looks at every thread. So yeah, you will have to reply to it in every thread, and every time, less people believe you. ---
**Author:** ![Nemyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nemyo/32/14407_2.png) [@Nemyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nemyo)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyj-surge-or-legacy/56693/10 "2013-07-19T20:27:10Z")
Get dat Surge. The LegacyII is good, but I like the Surge better cause its more of a player. If you dont like heavy throws then I advise you get the Legacy instead doe.