# YYJ Dark Magic II or YYF Too Hot
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyj-dark-magic-ii-or-yyf-too-hot/75899
**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation
**Created:** [July 21, 2015, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyj-dark-magic-ii-or-yyf-too-hot/75899 "2015-07-21T17:55:50Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@evansj](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/evansj)
#### Post date: [July 21, 2015, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyj-dark-magic-ii-or-yyf-too-hot/75899/1 "2015-07-21T17:55:50Z")
Between these 2 yoyo’s, I want to get peoples opinion on which one they would suggest.
Both are in the same price range, so if anyone plays with these, please give me your opinion.
Thanks!
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### Author:  [@\_RTD\_alecto](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/_RTD_alecto)
#### Post date: [July 21, 2015, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyj-dark-magic-ii-or-yyf-too-hot/75899/2 "2015-07-21T17:58:53Z")
too hot the dm is outdated in my opinion…
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### Author:  [@Tolkienfan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Tolkienfan)
#### Post date: [July 21, 2015, 5:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyj-dark-magic-ii-or-yyf-too-hot/75899/3 "2015-07-21T17:59:38Z")
If you are a real beginner, then maybe get the Dark Magic 2 But I have played both and for the intermediate to advanced player I think the Too Hot would be MUCH better.
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### Author:  [@AThrower](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AThrower)
#### Post date: [July 21, 2015, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyj-dark-magic-ii-or-yyf-too-hot/75899/4 "2015-07-21T18:29:00Z")
> [@alecto](#):
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> too hot the dm is outdated in my opinion…
I agree.
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### Author:  [@mysteriousyoyoer\_par](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mysteriousyoyoer_par)
#### Post date: [July 21, 2015, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyj-dark-magic-ii-or-yyf-too-hot/75899/5 "2015-07-21T18:34:33Z")
2 hot or Czech point or butcher.
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### Author:  [@Anthony](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Anthony)
#### Post date: [July 21, 2015, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyj-dark-magic-ii-or-yyf-too-hot/75899/6 "2015-07-21T18:42:36Z")
Both are really good. I think it just comes down to preference at this point. For me I would choose the Dark Magic 2 because I love the shape and design. Get a Too Hot if your looking for a full metal yoyo.
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### Author:  [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)
#### Post date: [July 21, 2015, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyj-dark-magic-ii-or-yyf-too-hot/75899/7 "2015-07-21T18:48:41Z")
Dark magic can crack if exposed to big temp changes. Also has high walls which isn’t good for modern tricks. Would take the too hot anyday
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### Author:  [@evansj](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/evansj)
#### Post date: [July 21, 2015, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyj-dark-magic-ii-or-yyf-too-hot/75899/8 "2015-07-21T20:01:17Z")
Thanks for the feedback everyone. I was leaning towards the Too Hot. I currently have a Shutter and dig it. I’ve heard the Czech Point is sweet as well.
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### Author:  [@evansj](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/evansj)
#### Post date: [July 21, 2015, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyj-dark-magic-ii-or-yyf-too-hot/75899/9 "2015-07-21T20:40:58Z")
> [@sparhawk](#):
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> Dark magic can crack if exposed to big temp changes. Also has high walls which isn’t good for modern tricks. Would take the too hot anyday
Being half plastic, this was one of my concerns as well. I think I need to stick with all metal. I have a plastic YYF Replay which is fun, but metal yo-yos play smooth and fast.
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### Author:  [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)
#### Post date: [July 21, 2015, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyj-dark-magic-ii-or-yyf-too-hot/75899/10 "2015-07-21T20:52:38Z")
There’s smooth and fast plastics as well. POM machined plastic plays just as well as metal. The replay is mold injected so there’s normally some vibe involved.
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### Author:  [@JohnnyJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnnyJ)
#### Post date: [July 21, 2015, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyj-dark-magic-ii-or-yyf-too-hot/75899/11 "2015-07-21T22:27:59Z")
I’d definitely go with the Too Hot. The DM2’s price needs to drop about $13 for it to be relevant again.
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### Author:  [@yoyoboy224](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoboy224)
#### Post date: [July 21, 2015, 11:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyj-dark-magic-ii-or-yyf-too-hot/75899/12 "2015-07-21T23:28:04Z")
TooHot
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### Author:  [@Buggot](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Buggot)
#### Post date: [July 22, 2015, 1:17am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyj-dark-magic-ii-or-yyf-too-hot/75899/13 "2015-07-22T01:17:04Z")
CZPoint~
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### Author:  [@LeftyLink](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LeftyLink)
#### Post date: [July 22, 2015, 1:17am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyj-dark-magic-ii-or-yyf-too-hot/75899/14 "2015-07-22T01:17:31Z")
2Hot
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### Author:  [@evansj](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/evansj)
#### Post date: [July 22, 2015, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyj-dark-magic-ii-or-yyf-too-hot/75899/15 "2015-07-22T11:18:12Z")
> [@Buggot](#):
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> CZPoint~
Do they have any other colors than black?
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### Author:  [@yoyoboy224](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoboy224)
#### Post date: [July 22, 2015, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyj-dark-magic-ii-or-yyf-too-hot/75899/16 "2015-07-22T17:35:49Z")
> [@evansj](#):
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> Do they have any other colors than black?
Beginning of August I heard they’ll have them.
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### Author:  [@JustYoYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JustYoYo)
#### Post date: [July 22, 2015, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyj-dark-magic-ii-or-yyf-too-hot/75899/17 "2015-07-22T19:44:05Z")
Too hot def. or maybe the hatchet?
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### Author:  [@Buggot](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Buggot)
#### Post date: [July 22, 2015, 11:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyj-dark-magic-ii-or-yyf-too-hot/75899/18 "2015-07-22T23:54:51Z")
> [@evansj](#):
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> Do they have any other colors than black?
Black, Aqua, Pink, and splashes coming August. If you can wait jsut a few days more it’s rumored to have green splash, czech out YYF’s instagram to see a sneak peek of it!
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### Author:  [@evansj](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/evansj)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2015, 3:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyj-dark-magic-ii-or-yyf-too-hot/75899/19 "2015-07-23T03:08:06Z")
> [@Buggot](#):
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> Black, Aqua, Pink, and splashes coming August. If you can wait jsut a few days more it’s rumored to have green splash, czech out YYF’s instagram to see a sneak peek of it!
Oh nice! I’ll be patient and wait to see why they look like. Thanks for the heads up!
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### Author:  [@evansj](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/evansj)
#### Post date: [July 27, 2015, 1:49am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyj-dark-magic-ii-or-yyf-too-hot/75899/20 "2015-07-27T01:49:14Z")
For a similar price, is there anything similar to the YYF Too Hot people would recommend?
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