# yyf metals vs bvm **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [May 16, 2009, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-metals-vs-bvm/2404 "2009-05-16T12:28:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![rh888king](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rh888king/32/20_2.png) [@rh888king](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rh888king)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2009, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-metals-vs-bvm/2404/1 "2009-05-16T12:28:23Z")
in your preference are dv888,888,skyline,cut trainwreck,or bvm better???prices matter also.i cant decide for my first metal… addment:-what bearing does bvm use??? ---
**Author:** ![Pheenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pheenix/32/65_2.png) [@Pheenix](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Pheenix)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2009, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-metals-vs-bvm/2404/2 "2009-05-16T12:41:07Z")
Ooh lots of different yoyos here. I personally want a CUT. But that’s just because I want one. I think that the Trainwreck is designed for 5a, but it will work out for 1a as well though. And the Bvm Utilizes a C-sized(AKA large) bearing. Addment: > [@(-\_Ryan\_-)](#): > > in your preference are dv888,888,skyline,cut trainwreck,or bvm better???prices matter also.i cant decide for my first metal… addment:-what bearing does bvm use??? Seems like it’s catching on. EDIT: I just read your other post where your preferences was. From the looks of it, it seems like you want an undersized yoyo which is either H-shaped or flat-rimmed. And in your price range, the Dv888 just seem to fit. And if you can afford it, the Skyline is also an option. ---
**Author:** ![Ewski](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Ewski](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Ewski)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2009, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-metals-vs-bvm/2404/3 "2009-05-16T15:18:03Z")
I have the skyline, 888, and BvM. And in order from greatest to least is 1. BvM 2. Skyline 3. 888 I really don’t like the 888. ---
**Author:** ![rh888king](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rh888king/32/20_2.png) [@rh888king](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rh888king)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2009, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-metals-vs-bvm/2404/4 "2009-05-16T15:46:16Z")
> [@Pheenix](#): > > Ooh lots of different yoyos here. I personally want a CUT. But that’s just because I want one. I think that the Trainwreck is designed for 5a, but it will work out for 1a as well though. And the Bvm Utilizes a C-sized(AKA large) bearing. > > Addment: > > > [@(-\_Ryan\_-)](#): > > > > in your preference are dv888,888,skyline,cut trainwreck,or bvm better???prices matter also.i cant decide for my first metal… addment:-what bearing does bvm use??? > > Seems like it’s catching on. > > EDIT: I just read your other post where your preferences was. From the looks of it, it seems like you want an undersized yoyo which is either H-shaped or flat-rimmed. And in your price range, the Dv888 just seem to fit. And if you can afford it, the Skyline is also an option. no i mean what bearing do they use?like konkave,spec etc. ---
**Author:** ![rh888king](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rh888king/32/20_2.png) [@rh888king](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rh888king)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2009, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-metals-vs-bvm/2404/5 "2009-05-16T15:47:08Z")
> [@Ewski](#): > > I have the skyline, 888, and BvM. And in order from greatest to least is 1. BvM 2. Skyline 3. 888 > > I really don’t like the 888. is the BVM worth it?how is it compare to a skyline? ---
**Author:** ![Samad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/samad/32/19_2.png) [@Samad](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Samad)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-metals-vs-bvm/2404/6 "2009-05-16T15:56:34Z")
I think its uncool that people steal your catchphrase Pheenix ☹ 😛 Anyway, I would go with a YYF. Hands-down. Now, my answer is biased, as I have not tried any new BvM’s. However, all of the old editions vibed. Stock. They look extremely pretty, and are great players nonetheless, but of you don’t mind tuning your BvM, then they vibe. Now, in my experience, pretty much EVERY YYF metal I’ve tried has been dead smooth, unless beaten down very much. They are just solid products. And as I have stated, I would go with them any day. But, I have heard of the new BvM’s being dead smooth. So then it falls back into the preference thing. So you should have to decide by your preference. And I know the BvM’s shape looks weird, but it is actually a very nice shape :wink: And finally, unless you are a die-hard 5a player, the Trainwreck probably won’t satisfy you as much as it was made mostly for 5a 🙂 Most YYF’s come with a SPEC bearing, which is like a bearing upgrade. SPEC’s are great bearings, and are extremely smooth. Also, no maintenance is required. I’m pretty sure BvM bearings are cleaned and stainless steel. Not sure though. However they are sized C. And I would say the BvM is worth it. However, it does come back to preference :wink: I hope you can make your choice! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![rh888king](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rh888king/32/20_2.png) [@rh888king](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rh888king)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2009, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-metals-vs-bvm/2404/7 "2009-05-16T16:29:03Z")
now this is frustrating.i need to order faster while bvms or dv888 or skylines are in stock…tyhis is hard. ---
**Author:** ![P.G.M.101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/p.g.m.101/32/73_2.png) [@P.G.M.101](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/P.G.M.101)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2009, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-metals-vs-bvm/2404/8 "2009-05-16T16:58:19Z")
if you want a really good cheap metal yoyo get the m1 they just restocked the flow grove colors i have m1 and i like it as much as my superstar ---
**Author:** ![Samad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/samad/32/19_2.png) [@Samad](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Samad)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2009, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-metals-vs-bvm/2404/9 "2009-05-16T17:02:38Z")
> [@cottoncandym1](#): > > if you want a really good cheap metal yoyo get the m1 they just restocked the flow grove colors > i have m1 and i like it as much as my superstar But he doesn’t want an M1 ---
**Author:** ![rh888king](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rh888king/32/20_2.png) [@rh888king](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rh888king)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2009, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-metals-vs-bvm/2404/10 "2009-05-16T17:10:04Z")
i think dv888 are way better than m1s ---
**Author:** ![Sumna](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sumna/32/157_2.png) [@Sumna](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Sumna)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2009, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-metals-vs-bvm/2404/11 "2009-05-16T19:22:10Z")
i would go with the BvM, i have 2 and they are my main players, they both vibe a bit but for me they are the perfect shape and weight. i also have a DV888 which is nice as well, mine is dead smooth with no vibe and has a nice shape but i would still go with the BvM. ---
**Author:** ![rh888king](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rh888king/32/20_2.png) [@rh888king](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rh888king)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 6:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-metals-vs-bvm/2404/12 "2009-05-17T06:43:24Z")
so if money is an issue should i still get a BVM or dv888? my mother put my money in the bank and will let me use a bit so which should? ---
**Author:** ![DYonch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bc79bd/32.png) [@DYonch](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DYonch)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-metals-vs-bvm/2404/13 "2009-05-17T13:11:26Z")
All YYF Metals are really solid yoyos, so if you get one you’ll be very happy. At the same time, I prefer the BvM. Some people will say that the shape is weird, but it fits in my hand very nicely and looks amazing. I like the Trainwreck for 1A more then 5A, and I know a lot of people that will agree. 5A and 1A yoyos are very interchangeable. However, if you’re talking about the Trainwreck 2.0, that’s a whole different story. I’d go for a BvM. There are barely any left and they are so hard to find. You can always get a YYF metal, so wait on those. Plus, BvMs are $10 cheaper :wink: ---
**Author:** ![Pheenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pheenix/32/65_2.png) [@Pheenix](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Pheenix)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-metals-vs-bvm/2404/14 "2009-05-17T13:19:28Z")
> [@DYonch](#): > > All YYF Metals are really solid yoyos, so if you get one you’ll be very happy. At the same time, I prefer the BvM. Some people will say that the shape is weird, but it fits in my hand very nicely and looks amazing. I like the Trainwreck for 1A more then 5A, and I know a lot of people that will agree. 5A and 1A yoyos are very interchangeable. However, if you’re talking about the Trainwreck 2.0, that’s a whole different story. > > I’d go for a BvM. There are barely any left and they are so hard to find. You can always get a YYF metal, so wait on those. Plus, BvMs are $10 cheaper :wink: BvMs are not close to 10 dollars cheaper than the Dv888, which happens to be the YYF metal we are currently talking about. the Dv888 is 65 dollars while the BvM is 110. You don’t have to be a genius to do the math here. It’s a 45 dollar difference with the Dv888 at the bottom. So if price matters, the Dv888 is a really good pick. ---
**Author:** ![rh888king](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rh888king/32/20_2.png) [@rh888king](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rh888king)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-metals-vs-bvm/2404/15 "2009-05-17T16:47:44Z")
how about the cut are they good compare to a BVM? ---
**Author:** ![Pheenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pheenix/32/65_2.png) [@Pheenix](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Pheenix)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-metals-vs-bvm/2404/16 "2009-05-17T17:03:45Z")
> [@(-\_Ryan\_-)](#): > > how about the cut are they good compare to a BVM? The CUT is the one yoyo that I would do about anything to get hold of. Really cool shape. It is completely different to a BvM though. It is bigger, sharper and much lighter. So there is your distinction. ---
**Author:** ![rh888king](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rh888king/32/20_2.png) [@rh888king](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rh888king)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-metals-vs-bvm/2404/17 "2009-05-18T09:45:56Z")
hey guys i decided to wait until december to get a metal yoyo… but anyways thanks for the help guys ---
**Author:** ![Max](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/max/32/61_2.png) [@Max](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Max)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-metals-vs-bvm/2404/18 "2009-05-18T17:10:09Z")
welllll i have the new ogopago BvM and it plays!! yyf metals are to plain for me and my bvm just hase more soul if that makes any scence id go for an m1 but you dont want one, but there a solid player can take a beating and are dead smooth like no joke. ;]