# YYF Ex Machina??

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-ex-machina/81213>\
**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [July 14, 2016, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-ex-machina/81213 "2016-07-14T18:28:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Yoyolazar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/65b543/32.png) [@Yoyolazar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyolazar)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-ex-machina/81213/1 "2016-07-14T18:28:25Z")

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7075 and bimetal…this was a very quiet launch from YYF. Anybody know anything about it? Seems like a good price point for that type of throw.

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**Author:** ![yitzman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e480ec/32.png) [@yitzman](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yitzman)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-ex-machina/81213/2 "2016-07-14T19:35:06Z")

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I agree… It’s price is very interesting…

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**Author:** ![yyfben2.deactivated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ccd318/32.png) [@yyfben2.deactivated](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yyfben2.deactivated)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-ex-machina/81213/3 "2016-07-14T21:19:05Z")

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We are building a solid bi-metal line. We think it’s better than a bit of hype on launch and hope to produce them for a long time into the future as solid players. (It’s good too :heart:)

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**Author:** ![Yoyolazar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/65b543/32.png) [@Yoyolazar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyolazar)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-ex-machina/81213/4 "2016-07-14T21:33:08Z")

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i have a few of your bimetals…not a fan of the superstar…doesnt really feel like a bimetal imo

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**Author:** ![yyfben2.deactivated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ccd318/32.png) [@yyfben2.deactivated](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yyfben2.deactivated)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-ex-machina/81213/5 "2016-07-14T21:52:02Z")

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which is pretty much why we went with a line of bi-matal yo-yos rather than one. someone out there will be saying exactly the opposite, which is totally fine too!

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**Author:** ![yoyoboy224](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f14d63/32.png) [@yoyoboy224](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoboy224)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-ex-machina/81213/6 "2016-07-14T22:30:45Z")

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> [@Yoyolazar](#):
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> i have a few of your bimetals…not a fan of the superstar…doesnt really feel like a bimetal imo

Superstar got it just right in my opinion. Such a perfect sweet spot with the weight. Really enjoyable yoyo.

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**Author:** ![yoyodoc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyodoc/32/48820_2.png) [@yoyodoc](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyodoc)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-ex-machina/81213/7 "2016-07-14T22:38:38Z")

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I have discovered that the human brain(and also mine) is made of candle wax.

I have been throwing the Ex-Machina and the Space Cadet for the last couple days.

Back and forth… 30 minutes here with one and 30 minutes with the other🤔

They are so good that my brain is melting🙀

… Additional thoughts on Space Cadet follow\>

The most effectively positioned weight for that type of ring placement.

Very powerful feel without the heavy throw down sensation. Hits the bottom of the string on a full tank!

Solid and very ergonomic.

Resists tilting. Best boingy boingy yoyo hands down. Regens and rejections are a breeze.

Doesn’t slow easily. It’s very directional. Gyros effortlessly. I can snap start the shape with ease👍

Great overall weight. Not really floaty but flowy(like a powerful cloud🤓).  
It’s beautiful.

I don’t think this yoyo could be modded to play any better.

This is Top Flight Designing and execution.

This is the kind of single A yoyo that people dream about.

Dreaming is pretty much over now.

… Likewise the Ex-Machina is to me the best execution of inside the rim weight ring placement. Fast and powerful. Beast level.

Each yoyo conjures up a different animal.

The Ex-Machina is like a 4 wheel drive.

And the Space Cadet is like a Racing boat.

Two home runs back to back.

Simply amazing.

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**Author:** ![Yoyolazar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/65b543/32.png) [@Yoyolazar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyolazar)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 11:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-ex-machina/81213/8 "2016-07-14T23:34:23Z")

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Doc, Caesar??

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**Author:** ![Totalartist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/totalartist/32/1054_2.png) [@Totalartist](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Totalartist)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 3:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-ex-machina/81213/9 "2016-07-15T03:26:09Z")

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> [@Yoyolazar](#):
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> 7075 and bimetal…this was a very quiet launch from YYF. Anybody know anything about it? Seems like a good price point for that type of throw.

I agree that it’s a good price point for it. I got the U.S.A. colored one from the campaign, which is a very limited edition of it too, at a great price. Ex Machina is the next in a line of yo-yos modeled after the original Cyborg (6061). Cyborg 2.0 (7075) came next, and now it evolved into Ex Machina (7075+ bi-metal). I have the other two yo-yos, and thought 2.0 really stepped it up in play. So I can’t wait to see how Ex Machina plays. It’s a great looking throw!

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**Author:** ![YoyoGeezer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyogeezer/32/755_2.png) [@YoyoGeezer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoyoGeezer)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-ex-machina/81213/10 "2016-07-15T10:48:55Z")

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> [@yyfben2.deactivated](#):
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> We are building a solid bi-metal line. We think it’s better than a bit of hype on launch and hope to produce them for a long time into the future as solid players. (It’s good too :heart:)

How come the new Ex-Machina and Space Cadet are not here at YYE? They seem to be available from just about every retailer in Japan for a few days now. Why none at YYE?

What is the hold-up? Are we just not a priority here in the USA?

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**Author:** ![GoCrazyForYoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gocrazyforyoyo/32/7941_2.png) [@GoCrazyForYoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GoCrazyForYoyo)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-ex-machina/81213/11 "2016-07-15T11:59:31Z")

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> [@YoyoGeezer](#):
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> How come the new Ex-Machina and Space Cadet are not here at YYE? They seem to be available from just about every retailer in Japan for a few days now. Why none at YYE?
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> What is the hold-up? Are we just not a priority here in the USA?

Space Cadet: Tomorrow 10 am :wink:

Ex Machina: Already available here…

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**Author:** ![Cannon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/919ad9/32.png) [@Cannon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Cannon)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-ex-machina/81213/12 "2016-07-15T12:37:08Z")

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> [@Amplified](#):
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> Space Cadet: Tomorrow 10 am :wink:

Wait! Really! Already! How much?!?!?!? $100? $120? More? Less? Lol, me be excited 😛

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**Author:** ![YoYoExpertGarrett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoexpertgarrett/32/1543_2.png) [@YoYoExpertGarrett](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoExpertGarrett)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-ex-machina/81213/13 "2016-07-15T12:53:15Z")

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Ex Machina released last week; check the ‘Releases & Restocks’ section.&nbsp; I try to keep it up to date.

> **[New YoYoFactory x Turning Point Collab – The Ex-Machina!](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/forums/index.php/topic,92356.0.html)**
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> YoYoFactory and Turning Point have a long history of making some amazing collaborations. They work well together and every time they join forces we get to reap the rewards! This is their latest joint effort – The Ex-Machina! ...

And like Amplified said - Space Cadet releases Saturday @ 10AM EST!

As for performance, I’m with Doc 100% - Couldn’t describe these two any better.&nbsp; YYF keeps outdoing themselves with each new model lately, gonna be hard to keep it up!

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**Author:** ![Cannon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/919ad9/32.png) [@Cannon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Cannon)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-ex-machina/81213/14 "2016-07-15T15:11:59Z")

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How is the space cadet for finger spins?

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**Author:** ![YoYoExpertGarrett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoexpertgarrett/32/1543_2.png) [@YoYoExpertGarrett](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoExpertGarrett)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-ex-machina/81213/15 "2016-07-15T15:55:08Z")

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> [@Cannon](#):
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> How is the space cadet for finger spins?

Very good. It has a stepped bowl that guides your finger to the indented point in the center. Feels like it really helps lock in a solid fingerspin.

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**Author:** ![Cannon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/919ad9/32.png) [@Cannon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Cannon)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-ex-machina/81213/16 "2016-07-15T16:45:42Z")

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> [@YoYoExpert Garrett](#):
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> Very good. It has a stepped bowl that guides your finger to the indented point in the center. Feels like it really helps lock in a solid fingerspin.

Nice! I’m between this and an edge right now… Not sure which one 🙂

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**Author:** ![YoyoGeezer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyogeezer/32/755_2.png) [@YoyoGeezer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoyoGeezer)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-ex-machina/81213/17 "2016-07-15T17:37:58Z")

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> [@Amplified](#):
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> Space Cadet: Tomorrow 10 am :wink:
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> Ex Machina: Already available here…

Doh!

Was that a stealth drop or something? It is a new model, yet I never saw it on the main page. Is it a New Release? I try to keep up to date, but I never noticed anything.

My apologies.

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**Author:** ![YoYoExpertGarrett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoexpertgarrett/32/1543_2.png) [@YoYoExpertGarrett](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoExpertGarrett)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-ex-machina/81213/18 "2016-07-15T17:49:11Z")

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It’s a bit of a pain to add things to the homepage with the new layout so not everything makes it up there. It’s in new releases and was announced on the blog/social media/forums.

There’s been a lot of new releases lately though, it’s pretty easy to miss one.

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**Author:** ![YoyoGeezer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyogeezer/32/755_2.png) [@YoyoGeezer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoyoGeezer)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-ex-machina/81213/19 "2016-07-15T20:31:03Z")

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> [@YoYoExpert Garrett](#):
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> It’s a bit of a pain to add things to the homepage with the new layout so not everything makes it up there. It’s in new releases and was announced on the blog/social media/forums.
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> There’s been a lot of new releases lately though, it’s pretty easy to miss one.

That is difficult to understand. I am in no way complaining, but why would anyone have a marketing site that is a “pain” to create new product features? How are your customers supposed to keep up with what is new if some new items make it to the home-page and some do not?

What then, is the criteria for “making” it onto the home-page? Not to be suspicious _again_, but what criteria besides “New”; could there possibly be?

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**Author:** ![YoYoExpertGarrett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoexpertgarrett/32/1543_2.png) [@YoYoExpertGarrett](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoExpertGarrett)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyf-ex-machina/81213/20 "2016-07-15T21:30:00Z")

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> [@YoyoGeezer](#):
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> That is difficult to understand. I am in no way complaining, but why would anyone have a marketing site that is a “pain” to create new product features?&nbsp; How are your customers supposed to keep up with what is new if some new items make it to the home-page and some do not?
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> What then, is the criteria for “making” it onto the home-page? Not to be suspicious _again_, but what criteria besides “New”; could there possibly be?

Always with the questions huh Geezer? When I say it’s a pain, I’m not saying we intentionally designed it to be difficult.&nbsp; The site is new, we’re still working stuff out. It just involves some coding that André hasn’t had time to properly explain to me yet.&nbsp; And customers can always check the New Releases page for every recent release.

For criteria - Nothing set in stone.&nbsp; We just tend to put whatever is bigger/highly anticipated on the home page. Ex Machina/Space Cadet/Skyva will all be added.

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Now - Back on topic (sorta) YYF Bi-Metals!

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/2/f/9/2f995060bcac752cd07955891d9fa340f7aefa5d.jpeg "Space Cadet By YoYoFactory feat. John Ando") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6yZhOKO4K8)

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