# Yoyos that can do virtually every trick?

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**Created:** [September 6, 2023, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-that-can-do-virtually-every-trick/383964 "2023-09-06T12:25:57Z")\
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**Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-that-can-do-virtually-every-trick/383964/21 "2023-09-06T16:49:16Z")

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Wow friend you trying to say my overthrow isn’t a masterful fingerspin yoyo. Cause your right…

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The swiss arm yoyo allows you to start small/learn while you grow your collection.

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**Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-that-can-do-virtually-every-trick/383964/23 "2023-09-06T17:01:05Z")

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Are pull starts easier with a fingerspin hub than with a hub featuring a conventional axle dimple? Like, if I never plan to do a fingerspin trick in my life, is there a reason for me to seek out a yoyo with a fingerspin hub?

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**Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-that-can-do-virtually-every-trick/383964/24 "2023-09-06T17:01:54Z")

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Matching the criteria listed in the OP I‘d say the ZGRT Ibex is a pretty good candidate. Very nice surface for grinds, Fingerspin dimple (Pull Starts are doable), IRG (Inner Rim Groove) and a shape that lends itself to Finger Grinds quite nicely…

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/8/c/8/8c887bd91e59c4004c355e1c5d9250df91e2be37.jpeg)  
 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/3/2/6/326a2589a21e7773da6dd0841e263094821f101d.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-that-can-do-virtually-every-trick/383964/25 "2023-09-06T17:02:51Z")

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Not really

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**Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-that-can-do-virtually-every-trick/383964/26 "2023-09-06T17:04:24Z")

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@Thruwell that looks smooth. This is the type I’m asking about.

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**Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-that-can-do-virtually-every-trick/383964/27 "2023-09-06T17:54:19Z")

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> [@Yo-yo\_Power](#):
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> What yoyo can do just about everything?

The one attached to Gentry’s finger. 🙂

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**Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-that-can-do-virtually-every-trick/383964/28 "2023-09-06T18:01:30Z")

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that’s a good point, the shutter seems like it can do everything, but it isn’t as good as everything as things that specialize in certain areas (speed, spin time, etc.), kind of like a jack of all trades master of none

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**Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-that-can-do-virtually-every-trick/383964/29 "2023-09-06T18:18:38Z")

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After I learn all of the yo-yo tricks I will get back to you.  
In my limited yo-yo abilities  
iyoyo iceberg would be my out of the box throw that “ can do all the tricks “ that I know

 ![IMG_6233](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/3/b/3/3b31537aca51ecca0897cc48d6cd5b11a747b2cc.jpeg)  
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**Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-that-can-do-virtually-every-trick/383964/30 "2023-09-06T18:39:36Z")

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There is only one!!

Shutter Wide Angle.  
Wangle as some call it.

 ![IMG_0621](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/f/8/7/f87225eeb9de0b46c3c5d3dc96a30f637a68faf5.webp)

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**Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-that-can-do-virtually-every-trick/383964/31 "2023-09-06T18:42:42Z")

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I think the shutter would win if it could lock the fingerspin in place. Even if it took incredible aim.

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**Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-that-can-do-virtually-every-trick/383964/32 "2023-09-06T18:50:17Z")

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> [@Captrogers](#):
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> Wow friend you trying to say my overthrow isn’t a masterful fingerspin yoyo. Cause your right…

Hahahah nice. By the way, I’m sure there are plenty of others, but I only wanted to mention yoyos I have personal experience with. :wink:

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**Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-that-can-do-virtually-every-trick/383964/33 "2023-09-06T18:53:10Z")

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> [@zslane](#):
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> Are pull starts easier with a fingerspin hub than with a hub featuring a conventional axle dimple? Like, if I never plan to do a fingerspin trick in my life, is there a reason for me to seek out a yoyo with a fingerspin hub?

I can’t say 100% since I suck at pull starts. I can sorta do them on yoyos with finger spin hubs, and I’m a little better on yoyos with sharper hub spikes. I can’t do them at all on flat hubs, posts, or nubs.

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**Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-that-can-do-virtually-every-trick/383964/34 "2023-09-06T18:55:35Z")

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The reality is most yoyos can do almost every trick with enough skill and practice. If you want something that can do something well, like fingerspins, then some of the above mentioned options with a good fingerspin dimple is probably your best bet. The iceberg is a great option for most grinds, but palm and thumb grinds not so much. I’ve also heard good things about the SHFX, but haven’t got to try it. Restock please?!

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**Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-that-can-do-virtually-every-trick/383964/35 "2023-09-06T19:06:50Z")

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> …once you get past that mindset of wanting a bit of everything and find what you like you will rarely pickup the good at everything yoyo again in comparison to something that does the tricks you like to do really well.

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> The swiss arm yoyo allows you to start small/learn while you grow your collection.

I agree with both these points. If you’re just starting out (or getting back into) yoyoing, then an all-rounder is a great and popular option. And while I don’t pick up my older yoyos very often, I do from time to time because they all play different enough that it’s a refreshing experience.

My take on an all-rounder tho is they often times make learning tricks easier especially, for example, a yoyo that’s designed to excel at finger spins. Then once you’ve got it down on say a Shooting Star, you can do them just as easily on a HaymakerX or Outlier.

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the yoyofactory marco is pretty good at everything

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888 with spintop stacks

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I would say Duncan GTR can do virtually every trick. It doesn’t have a fingerspin hub but it can still fingerspin for a long time

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A multi purpose tool that does everything generally does them all less efficiently than a tool designed for a specific task.

A swiss army knife is a good example.

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have to say the Onedrop Thorn has nice big spikes for matador,  
and yet I would consider it pretty easy to fingerspin and DNA on (assuming proper technique)

edit, the shutter also fingerspins quite easy despite not having a dimple

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