# yoyos in canada

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-in-canada/61796>\
**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [December 5, 2013, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-in-canada/61796 "2013-12-05T02:01:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![The\_Fitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@The\_Fitz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/The_Fitz)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2013, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-in-canada/61796/1 "2013-12-05T02:01:40Z")

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why is it impossible to find yoyos in stores in canada? this week was the first time i saw a duncan product in the wild ( it was an imperial ). is it that there is no market here? (if there is no product…) or someone is blocking them from coming in?  
i know there is always online but being able to impulse buy would be nice.

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**Author:** ![the\_dope\_chaud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/the_dope_chaud/32/1176_2.png) [@the\_dope\_chaud](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/the_dope_chaud)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2013, 2:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-in-canada/61796/2 "2013-12-05T02:05:32Z")

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Toys r us has a bit of stuff, and if you live in a big city, you can find some stuff in juggling shops and the likes, but I generally buy my gear online.

I guess this does not help:  
 Duncan may have ruined themselves in their own effective marketing. Their success with promoting the toy over four decades made the word “yo-yo” a household name. Challenges to Duncan’s sole right to use the name “Yo-Yo” were made by Joe Radovan of the Royal Yo-Yo company. Joe Radovan was one of Duncan’s early original Filipino demonstrators. In 1937 he left Duncan and formed his own yo-yo company. In 1965, after a long court battle, Duncan was stripped of the yo-yo trademark protection by the courts which determined that the word “yo-yo” had become the generic name for the toy. Although the word “yo-yo” is no longer a registered trademark in the United States, in other countries such as Canada, the word “yo-yo” is still trademark protected.

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**Author:** ![The\_Fitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@The\_Fitz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/The_Fitz)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2013, 2:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-in-canada/61796/3 "2013-12-05T02:20:11Z")

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i am in toroto fairly frequently… never thought of checking juggling shops

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**Author:** ![yoyobopper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f07891/32.png) [@yoyobopper](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyobopper)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2013, 4:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-in-canada/61796/4 "2013-12-05T04:22:51Z")

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Is the U.S. any better?  
Nothing around me… There are some manufacturers in Canada.

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**Author:** ![caribouchris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/caribouchris/32/102_2.png) [@caribouchris](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/caribouchris)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2013, 4:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-in-canada/61796/5 "2013-12-05T04:25:38Z")

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Because the word yoyo is trademarked here and the people who own the trademark just care about money instead of the community. They do nothing for the community at all here. It’s sad.

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**Author:** ![matttt55](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/matttt55/32/782_2.png) [@matttt55](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/matttt55)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2013, 4:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-in-canada/61796/6 "2013-12-05T04:48:40Z")

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> [@caribouchris](#):
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> Because the word yoyo is trademarked here and the people who own the trademark just care about money instead of the community. They do nothing for the community at all here. It’s sad.

What is the company that owns the trademark? Do they actually sell yoyos?

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**Author:** ![yoyobopper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f07891/32.png) [@yoyobopper](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyobopper)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2013, 5:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-in-canada/61796/7 "2013-12-05T05:18:51Z")

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> [@matttt55](#):
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> What is the company that owns the trademark? Do they actually sell yoyos?

I think it was Royal tops/yo-yo company. They won a court dispute over Duncan. The guy actually wofked for Duncan, but left and made his own company. The word is obviously isn’t trademarked In the U.S. anymore. Some other companies aren’t so lucky. I don’t think it’s in business anymore, but I am not sure.

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**Author:** ![Elephark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/elephark/32/496_2.png) [@Elephark](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Elephark)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2013, 5:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-in-canada/61796/8 "2013-12-05T05:31:46Z")

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Papa’s Toy Company. Still in business.

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**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2013, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-in-canada/61796/9 "2013-12-05T06:28:46Z")

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They sell the license for the “Yo-Yo” brand and trademarked logo to Yomega as well. I took a photo last time I was in a Toys-R-Us, but I can’t seem to find it. In Canada, Yomega makes a “genuine” Yo-Yo and they have the seal to prove it!

It’s hard to blame someone who owns intellectual property from wanting to make money from it, but it’s a crying shame that they do NOTHING to grow the hobby/sport.

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**Author:** ![oops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/oops/32/683976_2.png) [@oops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/oops)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2013, 6:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-in-canada/61796/10 "2013-12-05T06:35:19Z")

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I miss when CLYW went from Caribou Lodge Yoyo Works to just CLYW and Chris made the blog posts describing the yoyos as “canuck twirlers” and such. Is that where the phrase “return top” originated or did that already exist pre-CLYW?

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**Author:** ![Elephark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/elephark/32/496_2.png) [@Elephark](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Elephark)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2013, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-in-canada/61796/11 "2013-12-05T07:01:57Z")

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Very much so.

> **[Museum of Yo-Yo History](http://www.yoyomuseum.com/museum_view.php?action=view&subaction=exhibit&exhibitid=1146)**
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> You have found the most comprehensive archive of yo-yo images, historical memorabilia, and information in the world. Whether you're a long-time yo-yo collector, or just looking for that long lost treasure from your childhood, this is the place. In...

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**Author:** ![MrYoyoThrower](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mryoyothrower/32/21004_2.png) [@MrYoyoThrower](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MrYoyoThrower)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2020, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-in-canada/61796/12 "2020-08-24T17:28:02Z")

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Here, this sums it up perfectly.

> **[Museum of Yo-Yo History](http://www.yoyomuseum.com/museum_view.php?action=view&subaction=exhibit&exhibitid=2276)**
>
> You have found the most comprehensive archive of yo-yo images, historical memorabilia, and information in the world. Whether you're a long-time yo-yo collector, or just looking for that long lost treasure from your childhood, this is the place. In...

It costs 10,000 in legal fees to overturn a trademark if it’s undefended. If it’s defended, that starts climbing fast. I’ve talked to a trademark lawyer. It’s completely indefensible, it’s just too expensive to be worth challenging due to legal costs.

having said that, if I can get $10 each out of 1000 people…
