# Yoyos for sale **URL:** \ **Category:** Buy / Sell / Trade\ **Created:** [June 27, 2019, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622 "2019-06-27T06:28:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Earthbound8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/earthbound8426/32/88080_2.png) [@Earthbound8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Earthbound8426)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/239 "2020-05-11T18:35:39Z")
Any chance the mighty flea still available from way back ---
**Author:** ![Yoyoman13371337](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoman13371337/32/310884_2.png) [@Yoyoman13371337](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyoman13371337)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2020, 5:49am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/240 "2020-05-12T05:49:34Z")
Finally, PayPal solved the dispute to the Tera-Banks Moore( John Rhynes) side. So, I have sent throw, now it’s on the way to him, but he returned his money only because of shipping delays because of covid, that I can’t influence on. So the yoyo will come to him in some time, will keep there, and comeback to me. And I need to pay for shipping back, and I have already loosed money on shipping to USA. Would like to remind you, that yoyo wasn’t loosed! Thanks a lot, Tera-Banks Moore( John Rhynes), my desire to sell yoyos disappears after deals with such people. ---
**Author:** ![JohnRhynes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c4cdca/32.png) [@JohnRhynes](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnRhynes)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2020, 6:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/241 "2020-05-12T06:19:29Z")
No problem Павел Молчанов (Pavel Molchanov) ---
**Author:** ![yoyospirit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyospirit/32/219875_2.png) [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2020, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/242 "2020-05-12T06:32:44Z")
This just looks bad on you. Shipping delays due to COVID19 are in no way the fault of the seller. But yes, throw a temper tantrum and get your money back, cause screw the other side, who’s a highly reputable seller. ---
**Author:** ![Yosiah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yosiah/32/93688_2.png) [@Yosiah](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yosiah)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2020, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/243 "2020-05-12T06:53:34Z")
Bst has its way of sorting people like this out. @Yoyoman13371337 is a homie ---
**Author:** ![JohnRhynes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c4cdca/32.png) [@JohnRhynes](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnRhynes)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2020, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/244 "2020-05-12T07:37:52Z")
Y’all taking this too personal. I’ve waited long enough for the Yo-yo, which I never blamed him for taking so long. All i’ve done is outline the rules he’s broken and told everyone to be careful about sending money as family and friends, which he will try to get you to do. I’m getting my money back, hes getting his yo-yo back. But yeah, sort me out on a Yo-yo forum. ---
**Author:** ![Yoyoman13371337](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoman13371337/32/310884_2.png) [@Yoyoman13371337](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyoman13371337)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2020, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/245 "2020-05-12T07:55:37Z")
No, man, you haven’t been waiting enough. You opened a dispute since 25 days after yoyo was shipped. 25 days is normal for international shipping, but you have already opened dispute on this moment. I have already said about FF for 3 times, I don’t try anybody to do it, I just offering to pay in way they prefer. Don’t lie again please. For sure I’ll try to appeal this dispute. You have got your money back, I’ll get my yoyos. But money for shipping I won’t get. So I don’t see justice here. Anyway, it’s not a problem for me, 30$ is nothing. More unpleasant for me, that there are such people, who doesn’t listen to anybody and closed on yourself. ---
**Author:** ![JohnRhynes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c4cdca/32.png) [@JohnRhynes](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnRhynes)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2020, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/246 "2020-05-12T09:00:47Z")
“No, man, you haven’t been waiting enough.” - You don’t get to tell me how long to wait. “You opened a dispute since 25 days after yoyo was shipped.” - They made their decision based on the evidence they had today, not from the evidence they had the day i sent in the dispute, so that is irrelevant. “25 days is normal for international shipping, but you have already opened dispute on this moment.” - I’ve waited 50 days already. If it miraculously decides to ship tomorrow i will still have to wait another 21 days at minimum. “I have already said about FF for 3 times, I don’t try anybody to do it, I just offering to pay in way they prefer. Don’t lie again please.” - Still failing to see where i lied about it. I said you would try to get people to pay as family and friends, which you admitted to doing yourself in an earlier post very regularly. “For sure I’ll try to appeal this dispute.” - Good Luck “You have got your money back, I’ll get my yoyos. But money for shipping I won’t get.” - When you send something back to amazon, do you send them money to reimburse them for their shipping costs? “So I don’t see justice here.” - Ok. “Anyway, it’s not a problem for me, 30$ is nothing.” - Cool, so why make a whole post complaining about it? “More unpleasant for me, that there are such people, who doesn’t listen to anybody and closed on yourself.” - I picked up another hobby in the 50 days i was sitting at home waiting for this Yo-yo. You’re not going to talk the interest back in to me. ---
**Author:** ![Yoyoman13371337](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoman13371337/32/310884_2.png) [@Yoyoman13371337](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyoman13371337)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2020, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/247 "2020-05-12T09:23:44Z")
> [@JohnRhynes](#): > > You don’t get to tell me how long to wait. «You don’t get to tell me how long to wait.»- you haven’t asked about it. I didn’t think you are going to open a dispute since such short period of time. The last my message to you was about shipping delays, then you opened a dispute “They made their decision based on the evidence they had today, not from the evidence they had the day i sent in the dispute, so that is irrelevant.“- the decision of paypal is strange for me, but it again confirm, that buyer is more protected on it then seller. But I don’t discuss the reason of decision of paypal here. It’s another story. “ I’ve waited 50 days already. If it miraculously decides to ship tomorrow i will still have to wait another 21 days at minimum.”-oh, no, you haven’t waited 50 days, you waited only 25 days. After it you opened a dispute. The time after it relates to your unwillingness to wait and impatience. « Still failing to see where i lied about it. I said you would try to get people to pay as family and friends, which you admitted to doing yourself in an earlier post very regularly.»- I have already understood, that it’s hard to understand for you, but I will try to explain again: by asking send as ff OR COVERING G&S FEES I just showing, that in deals for me fees is an issue of buyers, that I need to get the amount that I evaluate my yoyo. So I can’t understand, where I have fails and still failing. “ Good Luck”- Thank you and mutually. “ When you send something back to amazon, do you send them money to reimburse them for their shipping costs?”- here is not Amazon, you are dealing with concrete people, not with shops. By PayPal rules if something didn’t suit buyer in god, he is sending it back for his money. In this situation you haven’t got the god, so of course, there isn’t a requirement to you from paypal to send it back for you money. But decision of paypal doesn’t mean your truth. As I see, they didn’t consider Covid situation, which is really strange for me. “ Ok”- I have already understood, that justice isn’t about you. “ Cool, so why make a whole post complaining about it?”-Because of you wrote a post in my account, and I feel obligated to continued this story. People are reading it, I should keep them informed. This is my deal, suddenly not successful, buy my. And I’ll write posts till this situation ends. “I picked up another hobby in the 50 days i was sitting at home waiting for this Yo-yo. You’re not going to talk the interest back in to me.“- i suspected that you lost an interest to this yoyo, so you changed your decision and opened a dispute so quickly. My congratulations, that you achieved what you wanted. Hope you are really happy because of this. ---
**Author:** ![JohnRhynes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c4cdca/32.png) [@JohnRhynes](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnRhynes)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2020, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/248 "2020-05-12T09:26:54Z")
Haha I’ll let you know when you’re yoyo is on the way. Might take a while with whole covid situation. ---
**Author:** ![Yoyoman13371337](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoman13371337/32/310884_2.png) [@Yoyoman13371337](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyoman13371337)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2020, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/249 "2020-05-12T09:35:30Z")
That all, that you can answer? Weakly And thanks, but you don’t have to let me know about yoyo, I’m keeping track of it’s movement. ---
**Author:** ![JohnRhynes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c4cdca/32.png) [@JohnRhynes](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnRhynes)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2020, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/250 "2020-05-12T09:53:01Z")
“you haven’t asked about it. I didn’t think you are going to open a dispute since such short period of time. The last my message to you was about shipping delays, then you opened a dispute” - _Ding Ding Ding_ Wow you’re finally getting it. It was never a personal attack against you, i was just tired of waiting. Which is my decision, not yours. “the decision of paypal is strange for me, but it again confirm, that buyer is more protected on it then seller. But I don’t discuss the reason of decision of paypal here. It’s another story.” - You’re strange. “oh, no, you haven’t waited 50 days, you waited only 25 days. After it you opened a dispute. The time after it relates to your unwillingness to wait and impatience.” - I’ve waited 50 days as of this post. Come on, keep up here. I’m tired of repeating myself, impatience and all. “I have already understood, that it’s hard to understand for you, but I will try to explain again: by asking send as ff OR COVERING G&S FEES I just showing, that in deals for me fees is an issue of buyers, that I need to get the amount that I evaluate my yoyo. So I can’t understand, where I have fails and still failing.” - Whichever way you cut it its against Paypal Terms of Service and B / S / T rules. “Thank you and mutually.” - This whole situation is not a problem for me anymore, only your problem, therefore I do not need luck. “here is not Amazon, you are dealing with concrete people, not with shops. By PayPal rules if something didn’t suit buyer in god, he is sending it back for his money. In this situation you haven’t got the god, so of course, there isn’t a requirement to you from paypal to send it back for you money. But decision of paypal doesn’t mean your truth. As I see, they didn’t consider Covid situation, which is really strange for me" - Well you have to go through Paypal to dispute my dispute, so i’'m gonna have to say Paypal’s opinion is the only one that matters. “I have already understood, that justice isn’t about you.” - Wow, right again. Justice is about the maintenance or administration of what is especially by the impartial adjustment of conflicting claims or the assignment of merited rewards or punishments. “Because of you wrote a post in my account, and I feel obligated to continued this story. People are reading it, I should keep them informed. This is my deal, suddenly not successful, buy my. And I’ll write posts till this situation ends.” - Can’t wait to hear the rest of your story. “i suspected that you lost an interest to this yoyo, so you changed your decision and opened a dispute so quickly. My congratulations, that you achieved what you wanted. Hope you are really happy because of this." - Yeah, I had 3 weeks in quarantine to think of a new hobby. I suspect it takes you longer, but i have already understood, that its hard to understand for you, that there are better things to wait 2 months for than a Yo-yo. ---
**Author:** ![anon49438433](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@anon49438433](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon49438433)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2020, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/251 "2020-05-12T12:12:41Z")
i have not bought anything from @Yoyoman13371337 because he was pretty rude when i inquired. ---
**Author:** ![FourCorner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fourcorner/32/122296_2.png) [@FourCorner](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/FourCorner)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2020, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/252 "2020-05-12T12:18:56Z")
Interesting, I enquired about multiple yoyos at different times and he always got back to me promptly, and courteously. ---
**Author:** ![anon49438433](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@anon49438433](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon49438433)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2020, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/253 "2020-05-12T12:23:50Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/4/0/f/40fb79feffffccefff73a836593206d16aa99938.jpeg) he got upset because i didn’t reply immediately, rubbed me the wrong way so i didn’t buy ---
**Author:** ![Yoyoman13371337](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoman13371337/32/310884_2.png) [@Yoyoman13371337](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyoman13371337)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2020, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/254 "2020-05-12T13:06:44Z")
In what place was I rude? When said, that I don’t like when somebody spend my time on empty talks after you disappeared ? There is a tone of people, who write me, ask about throws, ask pictures and disappear. That was you. I have write you immediately, the day was left. And I’m not sure that you didn’t buy because “I was rude”, because you continued to ask about yoyos. Even if you are not interested it’s better to say, that you aren’t. Appreciate others time. ---
**Author:** ![fatguysnacks247](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fatguysnacks247/32/81478_2.png) [@fatguysnacks247](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/fatguysnacks247)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2020, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/255 "2020-05-12T13:06:51Z")
this @anon49438433 when people can’t settle their differences, PRIVATELY, without turning it into another global international incident, it reflects poorly on both. @Yoyoman13371337 immediately jumped on the board to bash @JohnRhynes when he filed a complaint with paypal - the same thing he did with @joeboy77… if you have an issue with someone, handle it like an adult. don’t try to be the FIRST person to openly whine about it on the internet… @Yoyoman13371337 and then just keep pummeling on it. whatever everybody’s else thumbs up are, your handlings of disputes are what matters most… the handling of the grade c e1ns situation… how you treat ALL your customers, even if the did mess up, is what matters i know i wouldn’t deal with @Yoyoman13371337 just because of nonsense like this. if you had a store, would you stand out in front of it in a whiny effin tirade like this? how many more customers would yout get?!! GOODS & SERVICES IS NOT YOUR ENEMY, even if both parties are friends… use your brains! and customers… c’mon! stop being idiots. read reviews, do research… you can find yoyos… without the frustration, locally (not trying to shizz on his biz, but really?)… if someone is giving you a hard time, or acting smug… yoyos are fricking everewhere! no offense @Yoyoman13371337 but good god, this post is absurd ---
**Author:** ![Yoyo\_Garden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyo_garden/32/687387_2.png) [@Yoyo\_Garden](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyo_Garden)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2020, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/256 "2020-05-12T13:14:07Z")
Goods and services for life ---
**Author:** ![Yoyoman13371337](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoman13371337/32/310884_2.png) [@Yoyoman13371337](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyoman13371337)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2020, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/257 "2020-05-12T13:19:52Z")
The meaning of my post was to show people, that even if they can’t influence on the situation, if there is just a delay in shipping(not loosing), if you reply immediately and keep a buyer informed, there are people, who won’t listen to you and consider another side. I showed, that John Rhynes is such person, and I’m sure it will influence on somebody’s decision about dealing with him. And it was my goal. Of course I won’t do that if there were real problems with a package. I would immediately refund money, if I’m sure that the package lost, but in this situation there is 100% of his dishonesty. This issue was impossible to solve concretely with John Rhynes, after he opened a dispute he began to ignore me. I sent him some information from post, said, that it’s common case for now, but he didn’t answer me.I waited some time before write this post. ---
**Author:** ![Apadil1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apadil1/32/70326_2.png) [@Apadil1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apadil1)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2020, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/259 "2020-05-12T16:26:44Z")
If this is going to degrade into a gripe-fest, I think the admins should close this post and yoyoman can start over fresh… minus the negativity. [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622.md?page=11) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622.md?page=13)