# Yoyos for sale **URL:** \ **Category:** Buy / Sell / Trade\ **Created:** [June 27, 2019, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622 "2019-06-27T06:28:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![onedrop\_user](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e5b9ba/32.png) [@onedrop\_user](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/onedrop_user)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2020, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/219 "2020-05-05T18:08:09Z")
I bought a bapezilla from @Yoyoman13371337. Came in the exact condition described and although it did take awhile to come I understand because I live on the other side of the world. Would not hesitate to buy from him again. ---
**Author:** ![persson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/persson/32/208357_2.png) [@persson](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/persson)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2020, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/220 "2020-05-05T19:18:55Z")
> [@Yoyoman13371337](#): > > And yes, I’m asking to cover the fee or send money as family and friends- it means, that I lay the fee on the buyer and nothing more. It is not my intention to go into the merits of the situation and of this dispute but on this point you have written an incorrect thing. Often sales are made between people who do not know each other absolutely and if you choose a service like Paypal you do it also because it is a service that offers a very specific and important guarantee against a percentage to pay. if you, asking the buyer to make a payment such as “sending money to family and friends” instead of “payment for the purchase of goods and services”, not only do you pay the buyer the costs for the Paypal service but you do it to renounce forever all that series of services and guarantees that this tool offers (possibility to open a dispute, turn it into a complaint and have the possibility of obtaining a full refund even in the face of the seller’s total insolvency … if things go end badly for reasons not attributable to the buyer) This must be clear and if you do not explain it clearly, you are committing an impropriety. ---
**Author:** ![Yoyoman13371337](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoman13371337/32/310884_2.png) [@Yoyoman13371337](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyoman13371337)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2020, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/221 "2020-05-05T19:25:46Z")
I just give a choice to the buyer and showing, that it doesn’t matter for me, how he will send. The main for me that I don’t pay fee. In both cases I don’t. I thought it’s obviously. ---
**Author:** ![Yoyoman13371337](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoman13371337/32/310884_2.png) [@Yoyoman13371337](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyoman13371337)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2020, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/222 "2020-05-05T19:29:50Z")
Some of my constant buyers send me money as family and friends or cover the fee without any requests because they know the conditions of work with me. If sending as family and friends was the obligatory condition from my side I could understood mistrust, but when I say - cover the fee or send ff(as I know, there is a fee only for sender and it’s really fewer than gs) it can mean only one- I don’t really care how he will send, I care about fee. ---
**Author:** ![persson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/persson/32/208357_2.png) [@persson](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/persson)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2020, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/223 "2020-05-05T19:40:14Z")
This: _I say - cover the fee or send ff(as I know, there is a fee only for sender and it’s really fewer than gs) it can mean only one- I don’t really care how he will send, I care about fee._ Is different from this: _And yes, I’m asking to cover the fee or send money as family and friends- it means, that I lay the fee on the buyer and nothing more._ If you specified the first one, then sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Yoyoman13371337](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoman13371337/32/310884_2.png) [@Yoyoman13371337](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyoman13371337)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2020, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/224 "2020-05-05T19:41:24Z")
May you please tell the difference? To be honest, I can’t see it ---
**Author:** ![persson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/persson/32/208357_2.png) [@persson](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/persson)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2020, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/225 "2020-05-05T19:50:51Z")
maybe I misunderstood for linguistic reasons … … _And yes, I’m asking to cover the fee or send money as family and friends- it means, that I lay the fee on the buyer **and nothing more**._ this makes me understand that in asking the buyer to make the payment as sending to family and friends you are also explaining that in addition to taking charge of the costs of the service, “nothing more”, will happen ---
**Author:** ![Yoyoman13371337](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoman13371337/32/310884_2.png) [@Yoyoman13371337](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyoman13371337)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2020, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/226 "2020-05-05T19:55:49Z")
I see. Thanks I’ll try to explain more concretely next time ---
**Author:** ![persson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/persson/32/208357_2.png) [@persson](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/persson)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2020, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/227 "2020-05-05T20:00:43Z")
thanks to you and as I said it probably could depend on my understanding due to the translation :wink: ---
**Author:** ![d34dj3d](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/d34dj3d/32/105169_2.png) [@d34dj3d](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/d34dj3d)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2020, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/228 "2020-05-05T20:05:13Z")
I’ve bought from @Yoyoman13371337 before. I have a package he is currently holding as well. He was honest and forthcoming about the shipping situation. He also made me aware I could send G&S, so long as I cover the fees he has no problem with it. I am confident he will ship it to me when the mail is moving again. I have always found him to be an excellent communicator and he responds quickly to my messages, sometimes there is a short wait due to time zones, but I don’t expect him to be up all night watching the forums. ---
**Author:** ![JohnRhynes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c4cdca/32.png) [@JohnRhynes](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnRhynes)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2020, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/229 "2020-05-07T17:21:37Z")
I’m wondering what i lied about ---
**Author:** ![Yoyoman13371337](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoman13371337/32/310884_2.png) [@Yoyoman13371337](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyoman13371337)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2020, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/230 "2020-05-07T17:35:55Z")
That I’m asking to send money as ff for fraudulent manipulations, because in dialog I’m asking to send as ff or cover the fee. ---
**Author:** ![Yoyoman13371337](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoman13371337/32/310884_2.png) [@Yoyoman13371337](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyoman13371337)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2020, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/231 "2020-05-07T17:36:57Z")
Read people’s opinion and understand that you are wrong ---
**Author:** ![JohnRhynes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c4cdca/32.png) [@JohnRhynes](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnRhynes)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2020, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/232 "2020-05-07T18:03:02Z")
Where did i say fraudulent or manipulation? I quoted the B / S / T Rules. “A payment sent via ‘Goods & Services’ means PayPal will support you when something is lost or not received as expected. If seller feels it necessary they should include the PayPal ‘fees’ as part of purchase price. Paying using ‘Friends & Family’ is at your own risk.” ---
**Author:** ![Yoyoman13371337](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoman13371337/32/310884_2.png) [@Yoyoman13371337](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyoman13371337)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2020, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/233 "2020-05-07T18:14:31Z")
«Oh yeah, and hes going to try to swindle you in to sending the money over Paypal as a gift because paypal nor this yoyo forum will cover you if something goes wrong.»- this isn’t truth, I’m not trying to swindle somebody to send me as ff. I’m giving a choice and show, that i don’t care how you are sending. So I said you are lying. ---
**Author:** ![Yoyoman13371337](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoman13371337/32/310884_2.png) [@Yoyoman13371337](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyoman13371337)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2020, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/234 "2020-05-07T18:18:43Z")
These are you words. ---
**Author:** ![Yoyoman13371337](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoman13371337/32/310884_2.png) [@Yoyoman13371337](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyoman13371337)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2020, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/235 "2020-05-07T18:22:36Z")
And why are you refer to the fact that I’m breaking the rules of bst? Just for showing that I’m bad human and seller or what? It’s looking really disgusting from your side, because it haven’t stoped you to contact to me and buy my throw. ---
**Author:** ![JustJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/justj/32/81013_2.png) [@JustJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JustJ)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/236 "2020-05-11T15:50:19Z")
> [@rnsy](#): > > on the other side of transactions i’ve also had two packages delayed for more than i would’ve liked. one got there in 40 days, and one is just about 45 days right now. it’s absolutely ridiculous and i feel incredibly horrid that it takes that long. but there is also a global pandemic going on and everybody is scrambling to make life work. I think we are over fifty days now, package still has not arrived. I’ve never done business with Reuben, and I don’t trust easily, but communication lines have remained open and Reuben has been responsive. Also, I don’t think he nor I have been defensive nor reactive in our communications. All of this helps keep anxiety down, imho. As Reuben stated, patience goes a long way as we are in the middle of a global pandemic. I can see I might be much more anxious and much less patient re: the time it is taking to receive the package if Reuben’s communication was nonexistent, extremely slow, defensive or combative. Fortunately that has not been the case. ---
**Author:** ![French](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/french/32/70748_2.png) [@French](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/French)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/237 "2020-05-11T16:47:04Z")
I haven’t purchased anything from @Yoyoman13371337, however, I can attest that international shipping is a mess right now. I’m waiting on a package from an international seller that I know and trust 100%. I have tracking number, know it was shipped, but, is hung up somewhere. Stuff happens in a pandemic. From all I’ve seen, @Yoyoman13371337 seems legit and upstanding. My only advice to all involved is pay with G&S. I feel strongly enough about it that I choose not to deal with sellers who either specify F&F or add fees for G&S, or spring it when you think you have a deal “by the way, I see you paid G&S, can you cover the fee?” ---
**Author:** ![fatguysnacks247](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fatguysnacks247/32/81478_2.png) [@fatguysnacks247](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/fatguysnacks247)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyos-for-sale/304622/238 "2020-05-11T17:25:08Z")
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