# Yoyorecreation or Turning Point? **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [March 17, 2013, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-or-turning-point/50957 "2013-03-17T21:21:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![yoyofool](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyofool/32/398_2.png) [@yoyofool](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyofool)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-or-turning-point/50957/1 "2013-03-17T21:21:03Z")
Thinking about taking a delve into the high end Japanese market. Both of these seem very highly regarded. Currently I have been a fan of 56 diameter throws, with weights around 65-67 grams. I have always like the look of the Leviathan. So any suggestions? I also like the look of the SY-100 Stealth Ogre. ---
**Author:** ![yuki\_onitsura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yuki_onitsura/32/1162_2.png) [@yuki\_onitsura](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yuki_onitsura)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-or-turning-point/50957/2 "2013-03-17T22:03:02Z")
The Turning Point Solenoid would be my pick. Fits right in your preferences as well at exactly 56mm and 67.1g. Yuki ---
**Author:** ![YoyoGeezer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyogeezer/32/755_2.png) [@YoyoGeezer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoyoGeezer)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-or-turning-point/50957/3 "2013-03-17T22:10:08Z")
You can also consider: YYR Sleipnir or Gleipnir, sOMEThING Anglam. Make sure you search for the best price. The $/Yen has fallen quite a bit recently. I have seen brand-new YoyoyRecreation and Turning Point selling for $159 recently. ---
**Author:** ![znin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/znin/32/1279_2.png) [@znin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/znin)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 10:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-or-turning-point/50957/4 "2013-03-19T22:23:40Z")
Is there a difference between quality? Everybody seems to say something about yyr is better but they can’t name what it is. ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-or-turning-point/50957/5 "2013-03-19T22:29:48Z")
> [@znin](#): > > Is there a difference between quality? Everybody seems to say something about yyr is better but they can’t name what it is. I don’t have any metal YYR’s at this point in time. I don’t think quality is the issue. I think it’s a matter of preferences for the shapes involved. Both are excellent brands, I have a TP Positron. I do have an YYR but it’s a Diffusion, so it’s not on the same level. It is a great plastic, but it’s not in the same category as metals. ---
**Author:** ![yuki\_onitsura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yuki_onitsura/32/1162_2.png) [@yuki\_onitsura](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yuki_onitsura)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-or-turning-point/50957/6 "2013-03-19T22:34:43Z")
Like most yoyos made in Japan, both YYR and TP have absolutely stellar reputations when it comes to quality. It really isn’t an issue at all. Pick a size, shape and weight that you prefer and go from there. Yuki ---
**Author:** ![yoyoavenger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoavenger/32/884_2.png) [@yoyoavenger](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoavenger)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-or-turning-point/50957/7 "2013-03-19T22:35:30Z")
Honestly, I do not think TP stacks up to YYR. The YYRs seem to be in my humble opinion, simply better yoyos. I feel that they have superior spin strength, and feel higher quality. I also believe that they play much better than TP. I have owned a Leviathan 2, Leviathan 3 , and Maxbet. All of these have been topped by every YYR that I have ever tried. Also, my $120 IronyJP also beats the TP’s.