# YoYoRecreation Appreciation Thread

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764>\
**Category:** Collectors Corner\
**Created:** [July 27, 2012, 1:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764 "2012-07-27T01:55:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![azunyan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/43a26b/32.png) [@azunyan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/azunyan)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 5:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/2902 "2014-07-16T05:27:12Z")

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Top kek

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**Author:** ![Shai\_Hulud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shai_hulud/32/1521_2.png) [@Shai\_Hulud](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shai_Hulud)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/2903 "2014-07-16T08:46:51Z")

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> [@NathanC](#):
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> lol you post the most ridiculous things. I think it looks great. Might even grab one.

Then buy one if you think it looks great. Obviously neither one of us is “right” about it looking good or not since this is inherently subjective, but it’s clear most people agree with me as this is the slowest I’ve ever seen a Draupnir sell.

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**Author:** ![Gambit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gambit/32/1358_2.png) [@Gambit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Gambit)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/2904 "2014-07-16T09:29:04Z")

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> [@GregP](#):
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> Starting to sound like they regret the initial gap size and aren’t planning on going back to it.

Agreed, and I’m very glad that they decided to widen it. To me it was always the only minor issue I ever had with the original Draupnir, so to see them amend it was fantastic. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Dragonegs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc348/32.png) [@Dragonegs](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Dragonegs)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/2905 "2014-07-16T12:46:46Z")

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Blue Diffusion is in YYE NOW!!! YAY

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**Author:** ![NathanC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nathanc/32/891_2.png) [@NathanC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/NathanC)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/2906 "2014-07-16T18:08:03Z")

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> [@Shai\_Hulud](#):
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> Then buy one if you think it looks great. Obviously neither one of us is “right” about it looking good or not since this is inherently subjective, but it’s clear most people agree with me as this is the slowest I’ve ever seen a Draupnir sell.

lol gee, it couldn’t possibly be the slowest selling because so many Draupnirs are now out in the wild. There’s what, like 3 or 4 on the BST right now alone? With each successive release they will sell slower and slower, this is pretty basic stuff.

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**Author:** ![Shai\_Hulud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shai_hulud/32/1521_2.png) [@Shai\_Hulud](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shai_Hulud)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 10:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/2907 "2014-07-16T22:18:52Z")

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> [@NathanC](#):
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> lol gee, it couldn’t possibly be the slowest selling because so many Draupnirs are now out in the wild. There’s what, like 3 or 4 on the BST right now alone? With each successive release they will sell slower and slower, this is pretty basic stuff.

I doubt it. Certain colorways are still highly sought after. If they release a purple or hot pink Draupnir it will kill, even if it’s two months from now.

The blacks sold out in a day, these green ones will take far longer, and it’s not just because it came out later. If they switched the release order, black would still sell faster.

Everyone I’ve talked to agrees this is the worst colorway. I know it’s an opinion whether it’s the best/worst colorway, but it’s just a fact that people on average don’t really like green as a colorway.

I’ll wager you $100 the greens sell out slower than a later purple release (assuming they do one). We can both pay a trusted intermediary $100 and get back $200, $0, or $100 if you win, lose, or there is no purple, respectively.

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**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/2908 "2014-07-16T22:35:36Z")

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> [@Shai\_Hulud](#):
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> Everyone I’ve talked to agrees this is the worst colorway.

Have you not been reading all of the responses about it on this thread and on the Facebook group? You’re the only one so far I’ve seen say it looks bad :🙂

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**Author:** ![LinksLegionaire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/linkslegionaire/32/886_2.png) [@LinksLegionaire](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LinksLegionaire)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/2909 "2014-07-16T23:09:47Z")

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I personally love how the emerald looks.  
And if I had to rank them:

1. Black (obviously)
2. Red
3. Emerald
4. Gold
5. Tempered rim
6. Blue
7. Raw

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**Author:** ![yomagic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yomagic/32/131_2.png) [@yomagic](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yomagic)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/2910 "2014-07-16T23:13:21Z")

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I think its so odd how people hate on Raw yoyos…I personally love how a nice shiny raw yoyo looks. I think many japanese would agree since many use Raw and/or Clear ano yoyos.

My ranks:  
Blue  
Gold  
Emerald  
Raw  
Tempered  
Red  
Black

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**Author:** ![Shai\_Hulud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shai_hulud/32/1521_2.png) [@Shai\_Hulud](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shai_Hulud)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 11:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/2911 "2014-07-16T23:57:39Z")

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> [@andy569](#):
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> Have you not been reading all of the responses about it on this thread and on the Facebook group? You’re the only one so far I’ve seen say it looks bad :🙂

I don’t think it looks bad, just relatively bad next to the other colorways. I’ve talked to people who hate the color. It’s not just me. Most people just won’t come out and say it. Positive comments are much more likely to be made than negative comments because of how negative comments are perceived. I just don’t particularly mind if people jump all over me. Anyway, I’m making my judgments based primarily on how fast the yo-yo is moving. And I don’t buy this “later releases always sell slower” idea. Time of release is only one of many factors determining how fast a yo-yo sells. The gold version sold faster than the initial releases. The second run of black sold faster than the gold and the initial releases. Suddenly Emerald won’t sell because the market is flooded? LOL. I just sold a gold one for $300.

And I’m willing to take action with anybody that green will sell slower than purple, regardless of when it’s released.

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**Author:** ![yuki\_onitsura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yuki_onitsura/32/1162_2.png) [@yuki\_onitsura](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yuki_onitsura)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2014, 12:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/2912 "2014-07-17T00:03:03Z")

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I think the faster selling of the gold and black can be attributed to the fact that word had gotten out about how good Draupnirs actually were and the fact that a lot of people wanted to try one with the wider gap. When the Draupnir first came out people were a bit hesitant to jump on board because $220 is a lot of money to be throwing at a yoyo nobody really knows anything about.

That said though, I do prefer the raw and black to the emerald but I like the emerald more than the gold, red and blue.

Yuki

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**Author:** ![basepi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/basepi/32/620611_2.png) [@basepi](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/basepi)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2014, 1:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/2913 "2014-07-17T01:40:08Z")

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Shai, nobody is saying you shouldn’t have an opinion, or that green will sell out faster than Purple. I agree with you on that one.

It’s the language you use when you voice your opinion that puts people’s backs up. “[Mickey] seems to like gross colors like that”, “green looks like crap”, “Everyone I’ve talked to agrees this is the worst colorway” \<----the last one is I think the most important, because it means you’re dismissing those who have posted on this very thread that they like the color. By not including them in your “Everyone” you dismiss their opinion as not valid or important. And then within a few posts you go to $100 bets. (Which made me laugh out loud, by the way – who does that?)

Not saying you shouldn’t have your opinion, or that you shouldn’t express it. I’m not even saying that you’re actually dismissive of others’ opinions in this thread, just that it comes off that way. That’s why you’re always in arguments with one person or another, it’s all about tone, not your opinion. My $0.02.

I will note that NathanC also didn’t react right, either. “You say the most ridiculous things…” is probably not the best way to foster lively discussion either. =P

Just needs to be a little more mutual respect, that’s all.

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**Author:** ![Nathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nathan/32/191605_2.png) [@Nathan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nathan)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2014, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/2914 "2014-07-17T01:51:20Z")

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> [@yomagic](#):
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> I think its so odd how people hate on Raw yoyos…I personally love how a nice shiny raw yoyo looks.

I do too. Problem is that my hands turn nice shiny raw yoyos into dull not attractive raw yoyos pretty quickly. Clear anno is good.

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**Author:** ![YoyoGeezer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyogeezer/32/755_2.png) [@YoyoGeezer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoyoGeezer)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2014, 4:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/2915 "2014-07-17T04:35:17Z")

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> [@Navythrow](#):
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> Purple Blasted…TAKE MY MONEY.

Yes.

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**Author:** ![Shai\_Hulud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shai_hulud/32/1521_2.png) [@Shai\_Hulud](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shai_Hulud)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2014, 5:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/2916 "2014-07-17T05:02:40Z")

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> [@basepi](#):
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> Shai, nobody is saying you shouldn’t have an opinion, or that green will sell out faster than Purple. I agree with you on that one.
> 
> It’s the language you use when you voice your opinion that puts people’s backs up. “[Mickey] seems to like gross colors like that”, “green looks like crap”, “Everyone I’ve talked to agrees this is the worst colorway” \<----the last one is I think the most important, because it means you’re dismissing those who have posted on this very thread that they like the color. By not including them in your “Everyone” you dismiss their opinion as not valid or important. And then within a few posts you go to $100 bets. (Which made me laugh out loud, by the way – who does that?)
> 
> Not saying you shouldn’t have your opinion, or that you shouldn’t express it. I’m not even saying that you’re actually dismissive of others’ opinions in this thread, just that it comes off that way. That’s why you’re always in arguments with one person or another, it’s all about tone, not your opinion. My $0.02.
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> I will note that NathanC also didn’t react right, either. “You say the most ridiculous things…” is probably not the best way to foster lively discussion either. =P
> 
> Just needs to be a little more mutual respect, that’s all.

A) I said purple would sell out faster than green, not vice versa.  
B) I said “I think the Emerald Green looks like crap, relatively speaking.” That’s a lot different than saying it looks like crap. You’re taking my quotes out of context.  
C) Mickey does seem to like colors I find gross. Just stating my opinion, and my deepest apologies if I said anything not entirely politic.

I’m not disrespecting anybody. If I said everybody I’ve talked to says X, I literally mean everybody I’ve talked to about the issue up to that point, which did not include anyone in here who said they loved the color. I am not discounting anyone’s opinion here, though some people seem to have discounted mine by implying I am the only person who doesn’t like the color, which is clearly not true.

BTW I’ll take action on anything. I’m a former professional gambler. Proposing bets is an easy way to make money. I don’t care whether it’s normal or not, and neither should you. If you get into an argument and probabilistically believe your side has more merit, you should offer action on your proposition. You probably haven’t spent much time among gamblers because proposition bets are very common.

Lastly, I’m tone-deaf, metaphorically speaking. I’m aware I get into arguments a lot, I don’t always understand why, and I’ve stopped caring.

Now azunyan, go cry in SmashYo about how I don’t favor green yo-yos or something.

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**Author:** ![basepi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/basepi/32/620611_2.png) [@basepi](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/basepi)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2014, 5:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/2917 "2014-07-17T05:22:49Z")

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Hehe, I wasn’t clear, I agree that purple would sell way faster than green as well. =)

I’ll give you this, Shai – threads are never boring when you’re around. :wink:

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**Author:** ![NathanC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nathanc/32/891_2.png) [@NathanC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/NathanC)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2014, 6:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/2918 "2014-07-17T06:13:28Z")

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Studio42 Jr.

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**Author:** ![Nagamooto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/58956e/32.png) [@Nagamooto](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nagamooto)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2014, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/2919 "2014-07-17T06:28:23Z")

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> [@NathanC](#):
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> Studio42 Jr.

This was the other member I was alluding to in one of my first PMs to you Shai!

Thanks for the great reviews so far, the amazingly detailed and very helpful advice on questions I have asked and entertaining threads!

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**Author:** ![Shai\_Hulud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shai_hulud/32/1521_2.png) [@Shai\_Hulud](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shai_Hulud)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2014, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/2920 "2014-07-17T06:59:32Z")

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> [@Nagamooto](#):
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> This was the other member I was alluding to in one of my first PMs to you Shai!
> 
> Thanks for the great reviews so far, the amazingly detailed and very helpful advice on questions I have asked and entertaining threads!

I figured. Didn’t know the guy but most of the people here seem not to have liked him. Which means I probably would have liked him 🙂

You’re welcome by the way.

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**Author:** ![yomagic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yomagic/32/131_2.png) [@yomagic](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yomagic)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2014, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/2921 "2014-07-17T13:22:57Z")

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Shai, how old are you? You seem to have had a lot of professions.

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