# YoYoRecreation Appreciation Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Collectors Corner\ **Created:** [July 27, 2012, 1:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764 "2012-07-27T01:55:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![cbaxt98](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/cbaxt98/32/14060_2.png) [@cbaxt98](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/cbaxt98)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 12:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/201 "2013-04-19T00:37:50Z")
You guys were quick to offer, haha, possibly getting a Z-ON now šŸ™‚ Anyone have input on it? I LOVE Sojun so I have to be like him now, haha. Also, just curious, is there a Turning-Point thread? ---
**Author:** ![yuki\_onitsura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yuki_onitsura/32/1162_2.png) [@yuki\_onitsura](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yuki_onitsura)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 4:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/202 "2013-04-19T04:35:31Z")
The only TP threads Iā€™ve seen are about a dozen or so asking whether the Positron is good and/or if the Positron is better than the Sleipnir. Yuki ---
**Author:** ![ColeJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/colej/32/524_2.png) [@ColeJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ColeJ)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/203 "2013-04-19T05:32:30Z")
> [@yuki\_onitsura](#): > > The only TP threads Iā€™ve seen are about a dozen or so asking whether the Positron is good and/or if the Positron is better than the Sleipnir. > > Yuki I feel like TP just really isnā€™t on peopleā€™s radars. I also havenā€™t been too big of a fan of their yoyos. Maybe Iā€™ll give them a try again soon šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![cbaxt98](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/cbaxt98/32/14060_2.png) [@cbaxt98](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/cbaxt98)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/204 "2013-04-19T14:34:17Z")
> [@ColeJ](#): > > > [@yuki\_onitsura](#): > > > > The only TP threads Iā€™ve seen are about a dozen or so asking whether the Positron is good and/or if the Positron is better than the Sleipnir. > > > > Yuki > > I feel like TP just really isnā€™t on peopleā€™s radars. I also havenā€™t been too big of a fan of their yoyos. Maybe Iā€™ll give them a try again soon šŸ˜› I wish Turning Point was more active, donā€™t know how to communicate with any of them and I think that plays a role in their business and people not knowing them, plus there arenā€™t many of their products in the US. I personally really enjoy Turning Point, although I will say they donā€™t feel as pricy to me, like when I play a YoYoRecreation I feel like itā€™s totally worth it and the price fits it and everything, but for some reason I donā€™t feel the same with Turning Pointsā€¦Iā€™ll pay the price since I really enjoy them though, haha. So does anyone here have Turning Points for trade while weā€™re on the subject? Haha ---
**Author:** ![ColeJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/colej/32/524_2.png) [@ColeJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ColeJ)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/205 "2013-04-19T15:12:45Z")
I definitely agree about the price. TPs are actually more expensive than YYRs, and I still feel like YYRs are higher quality. I have yet to find a yoyo manufacturer that feels higher end and more precise than YYR. Plus I have yet to throw a YYR that I didnā€™t like ---
**Author:** ![yomagic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yomagic/32/131_2.png) [@yomagic](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yomagic)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/206 "2013-04-19T15:15:53Z")
Itā€™s because they charge alot and TPā€™s are made of 6061 so in reality you are getting a cheaper alloy. YYR makes the best yoyos on the market hands down. ---
**Author:** ![DrAwesome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/drawesome/32/1139_2.png) [@DrAwesome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DrAwesome)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/207 "2013-04-19T15:15:56Z")
I wish turning point had a website or something that made it easier to communicate with them. They would then hopefully be more involved in the community. ---
**Author:** ![ratfacedudeguy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ratfacedudeguy/32/273_2.png) [@ratfacedudeguy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ratfacedudeguy)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/208 "2013-04-19T15:17:32Z")
> [@ColeJ](#): > > I feel like TP just really isnā€™t on peopleā€™s radars. I also havenā€™t been too big of a fan of their yoyos. Maybe Iā€™ll give them a try again soon šŸ˜› I was a really big fan of the Maxbet and the Solenoid when I owned them. I havenā€™t tried any of their other models but the construction of both the ones I had were rock solid, the Maxbet was almost dead smooth despite a litany of 3A damage, and I felt like the Solenoid held its own right up there with the best of my YYR. Now, I probably wouldnā€™t enjoy their smaller throws such as the Leviathan series quite as much, but that just has to do with aligning to my preferences. Either way though, I think both of you (Chase and Yuki) would probably be pleased if you gave them another try. Never tried a Z-On so I canā€™t contribute to that discussion. ---
**Author:** ![ColeJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/colej/32/524_2.png) [@ColeJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ColeJ)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/209 "2013-04-19T15:31:51Z")
I really want to try an attune. Guys who have one, anyone want to describe how it plays? ---
**Author:** ![cbaxt98](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/cbaxt98/32/14060_2.png) [@cbaxt98](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/cbaxt98)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/210 "2013-04-19T15:44:57Z")
> [@ratfacedudeguy](#): > > > [@ColeJ](#): > > > > I feel like TP just really isnā€™t on peopleā€™s radars. I also havenā€™t been too big of a fan of their yoyos. Maybe Iā€™ll give them a try again soon šŸ˜› > > I was a really big fan of the Maxbet and the Solenoid when I owned them. I havenā€™t tried any of their other models but the construction of both the ones I had were rock solid, the Maxbet was almost dead smooth despite a litany of 3A damage, and I felt like the Solenoid held its own right up there with the best of my YYR. Now, I probably wouldnā€™t enjoy their smaller throws such as the Leviathan series quite as much, but that just has to do with aligning to my preferences. Either way though, I think both of you (Chase and Yuki) would probably be pleased if you gave them another try. > > Never tried a Z-On so I canā€™t contribute to that discussion. Oh I wholeheartedly love Turning Point, haha, I just think they donā€™t feel as nice as a YoYoRecreation for the price. I actually prefer my Prominence over my Overdrive and Gleipnir most the time, but I wish they were either cheaper or a little bit higher quality, but either way, I canā€™t complain, theyā€™re great and Iā€™m proud to own one. Would love to see a Turning Point x YoYoRecreation collaboration some time. ---
**Author:** ![ratfacedudeguy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ratfacedudeguy/32/273_2.png) [@ratfacedudeguy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ratfacedudeguy)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/211 "2013-04-19T15:58:25Z")
> [@cbaxt98](#): > > Oh I wholeheartedly love Turning Point, haha, I just think they donā€™t feel as nice as a YoYoRecreation for the price. I actually prefer my Prominence over my Overdrive and Gleipnir most the time, but I wish they were either cheaper or a little bit higher quality, but either way, I canā€™t complain, theyā€™re great and Iā€™m proud to own one. Would love to see a Turning Point x YoYoRecreation collaboration some time. Got ya. And with that I will agree. It is very strange how YYR just seems to have some kind of ā€œsomethingā€ which alludes premium quality that other brands just canā€™t seem to replicate. And before anyone jumps on me for that one, no I am not saying that YYR is the only quality brand. But yes. A YYR x TP collaboration would be legendary. ---
**Author:** ![ColeJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/colej/32/524_2.png) [@ColeJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ColeJ)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/212 "2013-04-19T16:01:02Z")
> [@ratfacedudeguy](#): > > It is very strange how YYR just seems to have some kind of ā€œsomethingā€ which alludes premium quality that other brands just canā€™t seem to replicate. Right? Thereā€™s just something special about them ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/213 "2013-04-19T16:09:26Z")
This all sounds like the same kind of rhetoric used by Apple and their fansā€¦ Distinctly less interested in YYR all the sudden, though if there were any hope of trying one locally, Iā€™d still giveā€™er a go. Just canā€™t see myself ordering one for all that money if itā€™s just about a ā€œcertain hard to identify qualityā€. ---
**Author:** ![ratfacedudeguy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ratfacedudeguy/32/273_2.png) [@ratfacedudeguy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ratfacedudeguy)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/214 "2013-04-19T16:27:05Z")
> [@GregP](#): > > This all sounds like the same kind of rhetoric used by Apple and their fansā€¦ I must admit, youā€™re right. And it absolutely pains the depths of my soul to be putting myself in a position to be aligned with that group of people. But I will not falter in stance because itā€™s my true opinion, canā€™t help that. If by some offchance I can happen to quantify this enigmatic quality that we speak of, Iā€™ll be sure to. Still working on it though lol. ---
**Author:** ![NathanC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nathanc/32/891_2.png) [@NathanC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/NathanC)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/215 "2013-04-19T16:37:05Z")
> [@GregP](#): > > This all sounds like the same kind of rhetoric used by Apple and their fansā€¦ > > Distinctly less interested in YYR all the sudden, though if there were any hope of trying one locally, Iā€™d still giveā€™er a go. Just canā€™t see myself ordering one for all that money if itā€™s just about a ā€œcertain hard to identify qualityā€. I decided long ago that yoyos are pretty much impossible to review. YYRs play great. I donā€™t think thereā€™s anything magic about them, just that for some reason the formula hasnā€™t been replicated. As far as price goes theyā€™ve been on the B/S/T for awesome prices recently here. Even at $150 theyā€™re not terribly priced compared to a lot of yoyos, but still expensive for sure. YYR hype is still dwarfed by CLYW hype, so i donā€™t think itā€™s anything like that, they just play well and being less common have sort of a niche group of fans. That said if you blindfolded me and gave me a random yoyo i feel confident i could tell you whether it was a YYR or not, even if i hadnā€™t played the model before. As far as the Attune goes, again words suck with yoyos, but itā€™s light, but not as floaty as i would have expected, but light in a nice way, quick, super stable, not a weak spin like some lighter throws have though. If you just handed it to me and made me guess the weight iā€™d guess 65.5-67.5. I think the 40mm width gives it a more powerful feel than if it was wider. Super smooth and stable. Basically exactly what youā€™d expect from the specs but maybe plays a bit heavier than youā€™d think. ---
**Author:** ![ragingpain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ragingpain/32/593_2.png) [@ragingpain](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ragingpain)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2013, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/216 "2013-04-19T16:55:32Z")
> [@ratfacedudeguy](#): > > It is very strange how YYR just seems to have some kind of ā€œsomethingā€ which alludes premium quality that other brands just canā€™t seem to replicate. I would back you up with this one. They feel different from everyone else. At first, I thought itā€™s because their throws are made from 7075 aluminum but Iā€™ve tried 7075 YYFs and the 7075 Chief and I could say nothing compares. The price tag is irrelevant too because I got some of my YYRs for cheap from the Used section of a certain yoyo store in Japan. Maybe my YYRs feel ā€œspecialā€ because they exceed my expectations on them. Their specs suggest only a little about them especially when it comes to the weight and feel of their throws. I also agree with ColeJ that I have yet to try a YYR that I donā€™t like. ---
**Author:** ![yuki\_onitsura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yuki_onitsura/32/1162_2.png) [@yuki\_onitsura](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yuki_onitsura)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 12:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/217 "2013-04-20T00:31:15Z")
> [@ratfacedudeguy](#): > > > [@ColeJ](#): > > > > I feel like TP just really isnā€™t on peopleā€™s radars. I also havenā€™t been too big of a fan of their yoyos. Maybe Iā€™ll give them a try again soon šŸ˜› > > I was a really big fan of the Maxbet and the Solenoid when I owned them. I havenā€™t tried any of their other models but the construction of both the ones I had were rock solid, the Maxbet was almost dead smooth despite a litany of 3A damage, and I felt like the Solenoid held its own right up there with the best of my YYR. Now, I probably wouldnā€™t enjoy their smaller throws such as the Leviathan series quite as much, but that just has to do with aligning to my preferences. Either way though, I think both of you (Chase and Yuki) would probably be pleased if you gave them another try. > > Never tried a Z-On so I canā€™t contribute to that discussion. Absolutely nothing at all wrong with Turning Point. I have a Solenoid 1.1 (basically a Solenoid with a slightly recessed response area), a Positron, a Prominence and a Levi 2. Theyā€™re all absolutely fantastic players. I canā€™t fault them on play or on quality. I also find it odd that, with the exception of the Positron, they donā€™t seem to get quite as much love or publicity as YYR. As for the Z-On, itā€™s pretty much the opposite of the Attune in that is plays a lot lighter than its almost 70g weight. The only time you really feel the weight is when it hits the end of the string on a throw. Yuki ---
**Author:** ![YoyoGeezer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyogeezer/32/755_2.png) [@YoyoGeezer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoyoGeezer)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/218 "2013-04-20T19:12:02Z")
> [@GregP](#): > > This all sounds like the same kind of rhetoric used by Apple and their fansā€¦ > > Distinctly less interested in YYR all the sudden, though if there were any hope of trying one locally, Iā€™d still giveā€™er a go. Just canā€™t see myself ordering one for all that money if itā€™s just about a ā€œcertain hard to identify qualityā€. It is amazing the judgements people make without even trying one YYR. Whats this about ā€œall that moneyā€? If you can pay for a CLYW, you can pay for a YYR. If I were you, I would try a YYR before I make any judgements or statements. Apple is still in the lead after 6+ years because of a reason. Perhaps the same can be said of YYR. Yes, they are that good. ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 3:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/219 "2013-04-21T03:05:29Z")
> [@YoyoGeezer](#): > > > [@GregP](#): > > > > This all sounds like the same kind of rhetoric used by Apple and their fansā€¦ > > > > Distinctly less interested in YYR all the sudden, though if there were any hope of trying one locally, Iā€™d still giveā€™er a go. Just canā€™t see myself ordering one for all that money if itā€™s just about a ā€œcertain hard to identify qualityā€. > > It is amazing the judgements people make without even trying one YYR. > > Whats this about ā€œall that moneyā€? If you can pay for a CLYW, you can pay for a YYR. > > If I were you, I would try a YYR before I make any judgements or statements. Apple is still in the lead after 6+ years because of a reason. Perhaps the same can be said of YYR. Yes, they are that good. I didnā€™t judge the YYR, if you read carefully. In fact, I said I would try one if I had the opportunityā€¦ tell you what, find a way for me, in Ottawa, to try one without buying it, and Iā€™ll be there. Itā€™s that simple. Buying a tablet soonā€¦ it will be an iPad Mini to ā€œupsizeā€ my sonā€™s iPod touch, so that he doesnā€™t need to borrow my wifeā€™s iPhone 5. Itā€™s not like I refuse to buy Apple. What I said, and I thought RATHER clearly is that this rhetoric sounds like the Apple rhetoric. And ironically, you went ahead and did exactly what your typical Kool-Aid drinking Apple fan didā€¦ spouted yet more of it in some weird knee-jerk reaction defense of YYR and also simultaneously of Apple itself. Itā€™s hilarious that you donā€™t even realize what you did. :wink: Apologies if the above comes off harsh, but frankly I donā€™t bother being too diplomatic when people start it up of their own accord. Sincerely, no actual hard feelings, I just see no need to sugar-coat. ---
**Author:** ![cbaxt98](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/cbaxt98/32/14060_2.png) [@cbaxt98](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/cbaxt98)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 3:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764/220 "2013-04-21T03:14:45Z")
Sorry to spam a YoYoRecreation thread with Turning Point (again), but has anyone tried the Isotope? Thinking about saving up for one [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764.md?page=10) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyorecreation-appreciation-thread/40764.md?page=12)