# Yoyojam - What happened? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [December 10, 2015, 3:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-what-happened/78322 "2015-12-10T03:19:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![old\_spinner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@old\_spinner](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/old_spinner)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 5:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-what-happened/78322/21 "2015-12-12T05:22:19Z")
I think the YYJ Transcend is one of my favourite throws released this year. It just plays so comfortably for me. I have never been a huge fan of the look of side caps so most yoyojams just don’t do it for me. ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 5:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-what-happened/78322/22 "2015-12-12T05:42:20Z")
> [@yoyospirit](#): > > Also, not to mention the solid spin system is just a huge fail. Good idea, bad set up What in particular do you find wrong with it. It seems to work pretty good on the 4 or 5 YYJ yoyos I have. ---
**Author:** ![rizki\_yoist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rizki_yoist/32/7925_2.png) [@rizki\_yoist](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rizki_yoist)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-what-happened/78322/23 "2015-12-12T07:30:48Z")
It’s prone to cracking I believe. However I have an Odyssey that now still works like new, and a dead smooth Phenom… before someone borrow it and return with vibe. ---
**Author:** ![yoyospirit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyospirit/32/219875_2.png) [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-what-happened/78322/24 "2015-12-12T13:02:37Z")
> [@jhb8426](#): > > What in particular do you find wrong with it. It seems to work pretty good on the 4 or 5 YYJ yoyos I have. The major issue is it sacrifices durability. Over time, from carrying the YoYo in your pocket or even just screwing it together and unscrewing it, the plastic will begin to wear ad cause the system to strip. Because the system is the entire bearing seat and not just the post, but the shim as well, that’s what allows the system to fall out. ---
**Author:** ![AGyoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/agyoyo/32/1457_2.png) [@AGyoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AGyoyo)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-what-happened/78322/25 "2015-12-12T17:51:40Z")
Honestly, IDK Recently, I was making a review on the phenom: [Aidin's Yoyo Blog: Yoyojam Phenom yoyo review!!!](http://aidinyoyo.blogspot.com/2015/12/yoyojam-phenom-yoyo-review.html) But as I was using the phenom, I felt like the technology was just “old” If they want to really stay in tthe game, they need to make something new and big ---
**Author:** ![rizki\_yoist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rizki_yoist/32/7925_2.png) [@rizki\_yoist](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rizki_yoist)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-what-happened/78322/26 "2015-12-12T18:03:50Z")
Most Yoyojams doesn’t have too much kickback or medium at most (at least the ones I have tried), and yes although it’s shaped “modern”, Phenom feels somewhat classic, not as stable as most yoyos out there so I can see why some people tend to avoid it, but it’s the very reason I like them. Fun to throw, lack of rim weight making it seems like it wants to go fast, I don’t mind sacrificing some spin time and a little stability for that kind of agility. ---
**Author:** ![AGyoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/agyoyo/32/1457_2.png) [@AGyoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AGyoyo)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-what-happened/78322/27 "2015-12-12T19:01:43Z")
> [@rizki\_yoist](#): > > Most Yoyojams doesn’t have too much kickback or medium at most (at least the ones I have tried), and yes although it’s shaped “modern”, Phenom feels somewhat classic, not as stable as most yoyos out there so I can see why some people tend to avoid it, but it’s the very reason I like them. Fun to throw, lack of rim weight making it seems like it wants to go fast, I don’t mind sacrificing some spin time and a little stability for that kind of agility. Definetly a fun yoyo. Unfortunately, they just do not get enough play anymore. I love the phenom but I feel like its kinda overpriced :-\ ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-what-happened/78322/28 "2015-12-12T20:34:44Z")
> [@yoyospirit](#): > > The major issue is it sacrifices durability. Over time, from carrying the YoYo in your pocket or even just screwing it together and unscrewing it, the plastic will begin to wear ad cause the system to strip. Because the system is the entire bearing seat and not just the post, but the shim as well, that’s what allows the system to fall out. Just my opinion, but I think it’s a vast improvement over the brass inserts that they used in their older designs. They seemed to loosen up or become dislodged from the body fairly easily, particularly if you banged the yoyo or overtightened it. At least now the bearing seat is metal. In the old design it was plastic that was prone to wear. ---
**Author:** ![888victini](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/888victini/32/1435_2.png) [@888victini](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/888victini)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 1:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-what-happened/78322/29 "2015-12-13T01:23:04Z")
> [@AGyoyo](#): > > Definetly a fun yoyo. Unfortunately, they just do not get enough play anymore. I love the phenom but I feel like its kinda overpriced :-\ You say that while your fave throw is an orca…lol just found that humerous (understandable why da lodge does the pricing though) I personally like a lot of the YYJ line, but they are slipping just a bit ---
**Author:** ![yoyoboy224](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f14d63/32.png) [@yoyoboy224](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoboy224)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 1:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-what-happened/78322/30 "2015-12-13T01:33:58Z")
> [@888victini](#): > > You say that while your fave throw is an orca…lol just found that humerous (understandable why da lodge does the pricing though) > > I personally like a lot of the YYJ line, but they are slipping just a bit Orca performs much better. My opinion though, as is all of this. ---
**Author:** ![AGyoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/agyoyo/32/1457_2.png) [@AGyoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AGyoyo)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 4:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-what-happened/78322/31 "2015-12-13T04:59:23Z")
> [@888victini](#): > > You say that while your fave throw is an orca…lol just found that humerous (understandable why da lodge does the pricing though) > > I personally like a lot of the YYJ line, but they are slipping just a bit If they sold B grade Phenoms at $60 I would be in. I do not own a Clyw Orca I own a Clyw B grade Orca with ano flaws > [@Someone](#): > > Orca performs much better. My opinion though, as is all of this. Orca-2015 Phenom- 2011 Maybe there is a pattern 😃 :wink: ---
**Author:** ![Cannon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/919ad9/32.png) [@Cannon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Cannon)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 5:17am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-what-happened/78322/32 "2015-12-13T05:17:31Z")
> [@AGyoyo](#): > > Orca-2015 > Phenom- 2011 > Maybe there is a pattern 😃 :wink: Newer doesn’t necessarily mean better 😛 ---
**Author:** ![GoCrazyForYoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gocrazyforyoyo/32/7941_2.png) [@GoCrazyForYoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GoCrazyForYoyo)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-what-happened/78322/33 "2015-12-13T05:59:28Z")
Maybe more up to date? ---
**Author:** ![888victini](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/888victini/32/1435_2.png) [@888victini](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/888victini)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 6:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-what-happened/78322/34 "2015-12-13T06:04:27Z")
> [@AGyoyo](#): > > If they sold B grade Phenoms at $60 I would be in. > I do not own a Clyw Orca > I own a Clyw B grade Orca with ano flawsOrca-2015 > Phenom- 2011 > Maybe there is a pattern 😃 :wink: Sorry if you took offence to what i said, didnt intend to offend anyone i agree, if there were b grade phenoms at $60 i would be there in a heartbeat 😃 ---
**Author:** ![AGyoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/agyoyo/32/1457_2.png) [@AGyoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AGyoyo)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-what-happened/78322/35 "2015-12-13T17:27:18Z")
> [@888victini](#): > > Sorry if you took offence to what i said, didnt intend to offend anyone > > i agree, if there were b grade phenoms at $60 i would be there in a heartbeat 😃 No offense was taken > [@Cannon](#): > > Newer doesn’t necessarily mean better 😛 I find that good yoyos are relatively new. The best players are still teens. The technology is getting better. ---
**Author:** ![888victini](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/888victini/32/1435_2.png) [@888victini](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/888victini)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 3:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-what-happened/78322/36 "2015-12-14T03:00:34Z")
> [@AGyoyo](#): > > No offense was takenI find that good yoyos are relatively new. The best players are still teens. The technology is getting better. Yes. Going on a tangeant here, but can we take a sec to appreciate all the teen yoyo stars? Gentry 19 Connor Seals (with YYJ, so slightly more on topic) 16 Chandler Steele 15 Harrison Lee 15 Colin Beckford 15 Andrew Maider 17 Adrien Velez 16 Franco Torres 15 Nehemiah Peterson 18 Jacob Vaughn 16 (im not a star, but self promo never killed anyone lol) Taylor Houston 16 Evan Nagao 18? Zach Gormley 18 Tunoose Giblin 13 these among MANY others are pretty good at flinging around pieces of metal and plastic ---
**Author:** ![Colbywill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Colbywill](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Colbywill)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 3:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-what-happened/78322/37 "2015-12-14T03:07:41Z")
The best players aren’t teens, they are yuuki spencer, come on guys. ---
**Author:** ![AGyoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/agyoyo/32/1457_2.png) [@AGyoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AGyoyo)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 4:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-what-happened/78322/38 "2015-12-14T04:05:50Z")
> [@Colbywill](#): > > The best players aren’t teens, they are yuuki spencer, come on guys. Yuuki has a good style, but cannot compare to nowadays players. If he entered worlds, would he even make it past prelims? ---
**Author:** ![yoyoboy224](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f14d63/32.png) [@yoyoboy224](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoboy224)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 4:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-what-happened/78322/39 "2015-12-14T04:12:13Z")
> [@AGyoyo](#): > > Yuuki has a good style, but cannot compare to nowadays players. If he entered worlds, would he even make it past prelims? Are you kidding? lol… Of course he would. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Colbywill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Colbywill](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Colbywill)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 4:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-what-happened/78322/40 "2015-12-14T04:25:15Z")
I don’t know what to say haha Yuuki “cannot compare to nowadays players”. This shouldn’t bother me but it definitely makes me sad to think this is the opinion of some of the younger throwers out there. [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-what-happened/78322.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-what-happened/78322.md?page=3)