# YoyoJam Identification **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [November 21, 2024, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-identification/413854 "2024-11-21T22:07:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![davis25565](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/davis25565/32/226040_2.png) [@davis25565](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/davis25565)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-identification/413854/1 "2024-11-21T22:07:07Z")
Yo, got this second hand from a cool guy. At first I thought it was a journey but then thought it could be a kickside? It weighs around 57 grams? Is it possible these old plastic throws loose weight over time as they loose moisture in the plastic or something? It also has half O ring response and half starburst. witch i thought the journey had double O ring? the diameter seems to be closer to the 57.4 of the journey than the 56 of the kickside. the width is adjustable so hard to measure. ![2492](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/6/f/4/6f4af0175403792360b945fceacb515429a67c56.jpeg) does anybody know what year, model or what kind of caps would have been on it? Thx for the help 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Simyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@Simyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Simyo)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-identification/413854/2 "2024-11-21T22:22:38Z")
I think the patriot was in enyo for a worlds release. ---
**Author:** ![davis25565](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/davis25565/32/226040_2.png) [@davis25565](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/davis25565)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-identification/413854/3 "2024-11-21T22:34:40Z")
I did consider that one! The Patriot has starburst on both sides though doesn’t it? also width of this one is more in the 42-45mm range & i think the patriot was a little wider? I think it most resembles a Journey but I’ve never seen one this color & the response is weird lol ---
**Author:** ![Simyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@Simyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Simyo)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-identification/413854/4 "2024-11-21T22:43:15Z")
Possibly a matrix then. It was half and half, I don’t remember them being made in enyo but I might have damaged that particular braincell over the years. ---
**Author:** ![Sleeper80](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sleeper80/32/257936_2.png) [@Sleeper80](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Sleeper80)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 10:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-identification/413854/5 "2024-11-21T22:57:30Z")
patriot was starburst, kickside was half starburst, half oring, journey was double oring. ---
**Author:** ![Sleeper80](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sleeper80/32/257936_2.png) [@Sleeper80](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Sleeper80)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-identification/413854/6 "2024-11-21T22:59:43Z")
also the matrix has a hi walled v shaped wing profile and an oldschool bearing like on the superyo renegade… the patriot, kickside and journey are organic/round with a c bearing. ---
**Author:** ![davis25565](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/davis25565/32/226040_2.png) [@davis25565](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/davis25565)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 1:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-identification/413854/7 "2024-11-22T01:39:22Z")
it is organic shape has C bearing and the half O ring half Starburst response. must be a kickside, but definitely thought it was more the size of a journey and weight is very light. ---
**Author:** ![yoyospirit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyospirit/32/219875_2.png) [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 2:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-identification/413854/8 "2024-11-22T02:10:37Z")
Most likely a modified Yoyojam Patriot. Weight is most likely less from removing the caps. ---
**Author:** ![davis25565](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/davis25565/32/226040_2.png) [@davis25565](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/davis25565)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 2:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-identification/413854/9 "2024-11-22T02:39:07Z")
Oh true, i forgot about the caps adding weight lol whats the chance of some dark magic 2 caps fitting? ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 3:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-identification/413854/10 "2024-11-22T03:45:13Z")
> [@davis25565](#): > > I think it most resembles a Journey I have had a large collection of Journeys over a period of time. All were double o-ring response. Never saw an enyo one.