# yoyojam counterweights
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-counterweights/23556
**Category:** General Yo-Yo
**Created:** [February 7, 2011, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-counterweights/23556 "2011-02-07T08:49:40Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@SocksWthSandals](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SocksWthSandals)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2011, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-counterweights/23556/1 "2011-02-07T08:49:40Z")
so i dont know if this has been talked about a lot, i dont remember seeing it… but when was yoyojam going to be coming out with the counterweight throws? i remember reading a while ago that duncan was allowing them to do that.
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### Author:  [@d42kn355](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/d42kn355)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2011, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-counterweights/23556/2 "2011-06-13T08:03:14Z")
yeah, the Destiny, it will have a bearingized counter-weight that detaches into a sliding counter-weight, the official release date is June 30th and will sell at 68.00 - the first run will be in Clear, Trans lime green, and Trans blue. They will come with YoYoJams new counter weight designed by Takeshi Matsuura himself!
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bbr9UfuDdo)
Hope this helps
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### Author:  [@dynikus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dynikus)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2011, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-counterweights/23556/3 "2011-06-13T08:22:52Z")
hm… gotta pick up one of those when I go to worlds if they have some. They looks pretty nice
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### Author:  [@d42kn355](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/d42kn355)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2011, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-counterweights/23556/4 "2011-06-13T08:45:32Z")
yeah it does 😃 wait to get mine soon, (Work at a Throw store)
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### Author:  [@catorameus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/catorameus)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2011, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-counterweights/23556/5 "2011-06-13T10:25:21Z")
They had a couple of Destiny’s at ECC. The counterweight apparently uses a bead at the loop of the string to keep the counterweight from coming off.
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### Author:  [@fjh123](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/fjh123)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2011, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-counterweights/23556/6 "2011-06-13T10:40:16Z")
That’s funny I sent Duncan a picture of the bearing C/W I did almost a year ago.
They told me it was a really good idea but I could not sell them. I did sell and gave away a few of the Terrapin treated bearings I used. It was easy to stick them in a die.
I can see by the video mine spins better. I use a swivel bearing actually designed for a torsional load. Guess YYJ had a bunch of A size laying around.
I sent this photo:
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### Author:  [@bigj122802](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bigj122802)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2011, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-counterweights/23556/7 "2011-06-13T22:13:25Z")
looks sweet I can’t wait to see what tech tricks will be done with this setup
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### Author:  [@dynikus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dynikus)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2011, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-counterweights/23556/8 "2011-06-13T22:25:15Z")
I don’t really get how the bearingized cw is different from a normal one? like what are the benefits?
I’d guess something to do with string tension, but I’ve never had a problem with my duncan cws.
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### Author:  [@Rika-chan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Rika-chan)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2011, 11:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-counterweights/23556/9 "2011-06-13T23:22:31Z")
68 bucks??? what the HECK?!?!?
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### Author:  [@Troy\_oyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Troy_oyo)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2011, 11:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-counterweights/23556/10 "2011-06-13T23:24:25Z")
> [@dynikus](#):
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> I don’t really get how the bearingized cw is different from a normal one? like what are the benefits?
> I’d guess something to do with string tension, but I’ve never had a problem with my duncan cws.
Yeah, basically it is a string tension thing. It will essentially remove the need to adjust string tension.
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### Author:  [@Jake\_Elliott](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jake_Elliott)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2011, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-counterweights/23556/11 "2011-06-13T23:33:23Z")
> [@fjh123](#):
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> That’s funny I sent Duncan a picture of the bearing C/W I did almost a year ago.
> They told me it was a really good idea but I could not sell them. I did sell and gave away a few of the Terrapin treated bearings I used. It was easy to stick them in a die.
> I can see by the video mine spins better. I use a swivel bearing actually designed for a torsional load. Guess YYJ had a bunch of A size laying around.
> I sent this photo:
While your counterweights do spin quite well (I have come into possession of one recently), I think that we will have to wait until we actually play with one to judge it against our own counterweight-with-bearing designs.
It may turn out to be extremely good. It may turn out to be extremely poor.
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### Author:  [@catorameus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/catorameus)
#### Post date: [June 14, 2011, 1:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-counterweights/23556/12 "2011-06-14T01:20:30Z")
> [@CarlG](#):
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> 68 bucks??? what the HECK?!?!?
The ones at ECC were only $45…
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### Author:  [@d42kn355](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/d42kn355)
#### Post date: [June 14, 2011, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-counterweights/23556/13 "2011-06-14T05:58:59Z")
I was just going off of what YYJ’s email said to our store.
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### Author:  [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)
#### Post date: [June 14, 2011, 6:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-counterweights/23556/14 "2011-06-14T06:25:08Z")
It’s pretty common knowledge that MSRP(manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price) will almost always be higher than list price or street price.
The DM2 according to YYJ sells for $48 through their web site. Here, it’s almost $41 for the same item.
Reported MSRP of $68? I bet it sells for around $56-58. If I’m wrong, oh well.
I wouldn’t sweat the price tag for now. Wait until they become available and I’ll bet that price drops. I bet in a few months, that price might drop a bit more and then stabilize. I know some people here have to be “latest and greatest”, and doing so means paying that extra price.
Heck, better “latest and greatest” with a yoyo than a super expensive(say, 6-digits) bit of core datacomm gear that turns out to have buggy firmware. Sometimes “leading edge” technology is “bleeding edge”.
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### Author:  [@d42kn355](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/d42kn355)
#### Post date: [June 14, 2011, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-counterweights/23556/15 "2011-06-14T06:28:05Z")
Fine integrity price is like 57 or 54…
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### Author:  [@fjh123](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/fjh123)
#### Post date: [June 14, 2011, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-counterweights/23556/16 "2011-06-14T13:09:20Z")
> [@Jake\_Elliott](#):
>
> > [@fjh123](#):
> >
> > That’s funny I sent Duncan a picture of the bearing C/W I did almost a year ago.
> > They told me it was a really good idea but I could not sell them. I did sell and gave away a few of the Terrapin treated bearings I used. It was easy to stick them in a die.
> > I can see by the video mine spins better. I use a swivel bearing actually designed for a torsional load. Guess YYJ had a bunch of A size laying around.
> > I sent this photo:
>
> While your counterweights do spin quite well (I have come into possession of one recently), I think that we will have to wait until we actually play with one to judge it against our own counterweight-with-bearing designs.
>
> It may turn out to be extremely good. It may turn out to be extremely poor.
From an engineers perspective the outcome is determined prior to the attempt.
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### Author:  [@hubstacker](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hubstacker)
#### Post date: [June 14, 2011, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-counterweights/23556/17 "2011-06-14T23:50:00Z")
> [@CarlG](#):
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> 68 bucks??? what the HECK?!?!?
he probably means 68 for the bearing AND the destiny yoyo, but i’m sure yyj isn’t that dumb to not sell the CW by itself
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### Author:  [@hubstacker](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hubstacker)
#### Post date: [June 14, 2011, 11:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-counterweights/23556/18 "2011-06-14T23:56:18Z")
YYJ needs to stop charging so much for their plastics
the phenomizm is way to expensive, for $3 LESS you could get a yuuksta, or for a few dollars more you could get another metal
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### Author:  [@Gizzyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Gizzyo)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2011, 1:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-counterweights/23556/19 "2011-06-15T01:43:34Z")
But you also have to understand that plastic molds are about 60,000-70,000 dollars. Plus maching and material cost. They have to make a profit somewhere. And also throw in the fact that the have to pay for a CW license from Duncan.
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### Author:  [@d42kn355](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/d42kn355)
#### Post date: [June 15, 2011, 1:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyojam-counterweights/23556/20 "2011-06-15T01:58:11Z")
> [@hubstacker](#):
>
> YYJ needs to stop charging so much for their plastics
>
> the phenomizm is way to expensive, for $3 LESS you could get a yuuksta, or for a few dollars more you could get another metal
Speeder 2 Hits on the 23rd for between 45 and 54$ US. Hiroyukis new model 😃
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