# YoyoFactory Plastic Grind Machine v2 Review **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Reviews\ **Created:** [January 12, 2010, 12:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyofactory-plastic-grind-machine-v2-review/10207 "2010-01-12T00:13:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![JakeKoffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/edb3f5/32.png) [@JakeKoffer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JakeKoffer)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2010, 12:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyofactory-plastic-grind-machine-v2-review/10207/1 "2010-01-12T00:13:28Z")
Ok, lets start off. I like this yo-yo very much, my Hub-Stacks haven’t broken in completely so I am not ready to compare to my Dark Magic. To sum things up this is a Plastic Yo-yo with Hub-Stacks and version 2, the version 1 I believe has weight rings and people say they prefer it more but I am not sure where to get V1. Pro’s/Description. A plastic body of course, but it has a rim, specially textured so longer spin times on your skin. This yo yo also comes with Hub-Stacks, these allow you to hold the yo yo while its spinning or pull the string and while holding it, it spins. This yo yo has a gap that is very large compared to the Dark Magic so binds MIGHT be a bit slippy but it really depends on how you do your bind. For me it binds with no snags perfectly. OK ever heard of vibe? Don’t expect to have a chance of seeing vibe with your eyes with this yo-yo.((Unless you have a BAAAAAAAAD sleeper or it just falls out of your hand connected to your finger, but all yo-yos’ vibe like that.))My Dark Magic has much more vibe than this but, I’ve only been yo-yoing for what 3 months now? I don’t remember writing this but this is TRULY unresponsive do to the larger gap and response system of K-Pads.Onto the response system of K-Pads, the PGM v2 has Medium Sises K-Pads or also known as Grind Machine size or Turning Point size. The K-Pads give you truly nice binds, TINY bit slippy but no snags. The yo yo comes shipped with a polyester string, normal YYF bearing and hub stacks on the PGM v2. Cons/Description: The PGM V2 is a great yo-yo, but here are some cons. The space for Thumb Grinding is very small due to the shape and Hub-Stacks. My thumb can barely go in the area and im like 80 pounds and only 12. The surface around the hub stacks is very easily scratch-able,the ring area. I took me nail and just moved it along the surface and It got scratched, It might be less see-able if you have a different color than white which is what I have. Also if your string is tight/loose while holding the hub stacks it can get hold of the yo-yo and suddenly twist around the hub stacks and your finger. The response system ((K-Pads)) wear out in about two weeks so its good to buy spares, 2.50 for a pair I believe. Or you may silicone wear the K-Pads sit, ((its already recessed)). This yo-yo is truly GREAT for its price, there is a metal version which unfortunately YoYo-Expert doesn’t have, so just look on any other Yoyo Store site, but we do have the one I just did the review on and the K-Pads Medium Size ((Grind Machine size)). I give this yo-yo a 9/10! YYF Grind Machine Stats: Diameter: 2.22" Width: 1.61" Response System: K-Pad - Medium/Turning Point/Grind Machine Size Weight: 64 grams Bearing Size: Size C Where to get these-------------- [http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/32/YYF-Grind-MachineColors-Blue/Yellow](http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/32/YYF-Grind-MachineColors-Blue/Yellow) Rings-Green/Black Rings-White/White Rings [http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/32/YYF-Grind-MachineAll](http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/32/YYF-Grind-MachineAll) K-Pad sizes [http://www.yoyoz.co.uk/catalog/images/red-grind-machine.gif](http://www.yoyoz.co.uk/catalog/images/red-grind-machine.gif) This is the metal version, its much different as you see, but the PGM V2 IS A GREAT PLAYER FOR A GREAT PRICE! GET YOURS TODAY FROM YYE! ---
**Author:** ![mattsk8nike](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mattsk8nike/32/213_2.png) [@mattsk8nike](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mattsk8nike)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2010, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyofactory-plastic-grind-machine-v2-review/10207/2 "2010-01-12T00:33:51Z")
Nice review. But why did you put a pic of the GM2? ---
**Author:** ![buck\_choy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/buck_choy/32/302_2.png) [@buck\_choy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/buck_choy)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2010, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyofactory-plastic-grind-machine-v2-review/10207/3 "2010-01-12T01:07:31Z")
Nice review but your title says yoyojam pgm but it is yoyofactory’s pgm. ---
**Author:** ![JakeKoffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/edb3f5/32.png) [@JakeKoffer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JakeKoffer)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2010, 4:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyofactory-plastic-grind-machine-v2-review/10207/4 "2010-01-24T04:33:00Z")
Fixed and bump. ---
**Author:** ![yoEEKyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/58f4c7/32.png) [@yoEEKyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoEEKyo)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2010, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyofactory-plastic-grind-machine-v2-review/10207/5 "2010-01-24T09:16:21Z")
hey jake if you want to weight your pgm a lil more get some o-rings trust me i was blown away at the diffrence it made ---
**Author:** ![JakeKoffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/edb3f5/32.png) [@JakeKoffer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JakeKoffer)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 5:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyofactory-plastic-grind-machine-v2-review/10207/6 "2010-01-30T05:14:26Z")
BUUUUMP And when ever my dad goes to Home Depot Ill go with him and get me some O-Rings ---
**Author:** ![JakeKoffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/edb3f5/32.png) [@JakeKoffer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JakeKoffer)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 2:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyofactory-plastic-grind-machine-v2-review/10207/7 "2010-02-08T02:10:58Z")
BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUmP ---
**Author:** ![Nmaster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nmaster/32/345_2.png) [@Nmaster](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nmaster)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 2:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyofactory-plastic-grind-machine-v2-review/10207/8 "2010-02-08T02:58:54Z")
Pretty nice review you put there, It makes me want to get it ;D, but you can also get more attention when you have pictures taken at home. Great description how it plays. Now this is the question, are you sure that K-pads were out in 2 weeks? ??? I have been using my K-pad on my Dv888 for a while (at least a month and a half) ---
**Author:** ![JakeKoffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/edb3f5/32.png) [@JakeKoffer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JakeKoffer)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 5:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyofactory-plastic-grind-machine-v2-review/10207/9 "2010-02-09T05:54:16Z")
Oh really? Oopsies, bad info. Adding Pics now. ---
**Author:** ![angelic\_knight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e9bcb4/32.png) [@angelic\_knight](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/angelic_knight)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2010, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyofactory-plastic-grind-machine-v2-review/10207/10 "2010-02-13T21:52:45Z")
I’ve had one of these for a while, loved it at first. Then I moved on to metal yo-yos. A few days ago I decided to put flowable silicone in one side (kept the origional k-pad in the other). Plays like a DREAM. I fell in love with it again. Still needs a better bearing but awesome. ---
**Author:** ![JakeKoffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/edb3f5/32.png) [@JakeKoffer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JakeKoffer)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2010, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyofactory-plastic-grind-machine-v2-review/10207/11 "2010-02-14T00:12:18Z")
Yea, I totally love mine. Im going to do a review on my Dark Magic later. ---
**Author:** ![jbowers07432](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jbowers07432/32/407_2.png) [@jbowers07432](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jbowers07432)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2010, 2:36am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyofactory-plastic-grind-machine-v2-review/10207/12 "2010-02-16T02:36:40Z")
i think a DM is better the PGM2 has weight rings The PGM1 doesnt ---
**Author:** ![JakeKoffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/edb3f5/32.png) [@JakeKoffer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JakeKoffer)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2010, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyofactory-plastic-grind-machine-v2-review/10207/13 "2010-02-28T17:58:04Z")
BUUUUUUUUUUUUUMP ---
**Author:** ![Mage1342](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mage1342/32/75_2.png) [@Mage1342](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mage1342)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2010, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyofactory-plastic-grind-machine-v2-review/10207/14 "2010-02-28T18:09:27Z")
> [@jbowers07432](#): > > i think a DM is better > the PGM2 has weight rings > The PGM1 doesnt I thought to PGM 1 had rubber weight rings? ---
**Author:** ![MWcollector](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mwcollector/32/427_2.png) [@MWcollector](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MWcollector)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyofactory-plastic-grind-machine-v2-review/10207/15 "2010-03-23T17:40:43Z")
I liked the review. I also like the idea of the pros and cons thing you had going on. You got into a lot of detail about the yoyo and looks, vibe, plastic ect. I still think you should of talked about the playing a little bit more besides grinding but overall I thought it was a very good review ---
**Author:** ![nobody](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nobody/32/845_2.png) [@nobody](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nobody)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyofactory-plastic-grind-machine-v2-review/10207/16 "2011-04-26T20:22:38Z")
The grind machine 2 was discontinued but there is the genesis+ which is basically the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![TheYoYoist101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/theyoyoist101/32/842_2.png) [@TheYoYoist101](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheYoYoist101)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2011, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyofactory-plastic-grind-machine-v2-review/10207/17 "2011-05-08T16:50:44Z")
I love this yoyo. Me and my friend David always do sleep contest and most of the time I can best out his DM2!