# YoYoFactory HORIZON 2 Prototype Release! **URL:** \ **Category:** YoYoExpert Releases and Restocks\ **Created:** [March 12, 2020, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyofactory-horizon-2-prototype-release/316636 "2020-03-12T21:40:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![YoYoExpertGarrett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoexpertgarrett/32/1543_2.png) [@YoYoExpertGarrett](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoExpertGarrett)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyofactory-horizon-2-prototype-release/316636/1 "2020-03-12T21:40:48Z")
With a pause in production YoYoFactory took the opportunity to get back in the designing process working on smaller production and some BIG concepts like this Horizon 2 prototype! ![Horizon2-Bluesilver-1_1024x1024](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/5/7/c/57c1e8142eb5199572db19c41f22f10287bffec1.jpeg) ![Horizon2-Bluesilver-2_1024x1024](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/8/9/a/89a68b8704c0801c6875df51509f9999474b907c.jpeg) First released at PNWR; The HORIZON “prototype” needs a little more polish before it’s official release, but it plays so well YoyoFactory wanted to give players a chance to try one out! The Horizon 2 features a 2 piece design with a press fit fingerspin cup that gives it a great look and makes fingerspins a breeze. It plays fast and stable with a lighter feel on the string than the original, a must have for all you Horizon fans! ![Horizon2-Extra_1024x1024](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/1/b/9/1b9d4da487a61b36f992644394decc641fc59188.jpeg) _Please Note: These prototypes do have a small amount of vibe, but nothing that impedes performance. If you are picky about vibe then this is not for you, if a little vibe doesn’t bother you then you’re in for a treat!_ # 3/13 @ 10AM EDT. > **[YoYoExpert - Yo-Yo Store - Buy & Shop Modern Yo-Yos!](https://yoyoexpert.com/)** > > At YoYoExpert we deliver the best yoyo shopping experience and an amazing selection you can't find anywhere else. Shop YoYoFactory, Duncan, Yomega & many more! ---
**Author:** ![Genki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/genki/32/78683_2.png) [@Genki](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Genki)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyofactory-horizon-2-prototype-release/316636/2 "2020-03-12T22:00:45Z")
Maybe fix that typo “…and makes fingers pins in a breeze…” Otherwise, this looks like another very good design coming from YYF ---
**Author:** ![Mep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mep/32/79842_2.png) [@Mep](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mep)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyofactory-horizon-2-prototype-release/316636/3 "2020-03-12T22:24:05Z")
This looks like a truly unique design. Curious why the cup was designed to be press fit instead of machined. Because it’s hollow? ---
**Author:** ![nonja121](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nonja121/32/52722_2.png) [@nonja121](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nonja121)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyofactory-horizon-2-prototype-release/316636/4 "2020-03-12T22:33:57Z")
Curious what the design changes will be for the production release. Is it anything performance-related or is it more production-related? ---
**Author:** ![YoYoExpertGarrett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoexpertgarrett/32/1543_2.png) [@YoYoExpertGarrett](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoExpertGarrett)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 12:49am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyofactory-horizon-2-prototype-release/316636/5 "2020-03-13T00:49:23Z")
I think the design just needs a little fine tuning before a full production run. They play _so good_, but some had an unpassable level of vibe. They’re great though if you can look past a little vibe for this prototype run, I’ve been throwing one all week and can’t put it down! (And I was never really a fan of the OG Horizon.) ---
**Author:** ![Dalex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dalex/32/43290_2.png) [@Dalex](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Dalex)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyofactory-horizon-2-prototype-release/316636/6 "2020-03-13T14:12:58Z")
@YoYoExpertGarrett, the page says the countdown is complete, but I can’t seem to purchase one. ---
**Author:** ![AndreBoulay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andreboulay/32/69662_2.png) [@AndreBoulay](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AndreBoulay)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyofactory-horizon-2-prototype-release/316636/7 "2020-03-13T14:30:24Z")
Try again? If on computer press shift and refresh. 😊 ---
**Author:** ![jsn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jsn/32/104018_2.png) [@jsn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jsn)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 3:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyofactory-horizon-2-prototype-release/316636/8 "2020-03-13T15:03:21Z")
@AndreBoulay @YoYoExpertGarrett Is the spin cup like the Czech point pivot or more like the wedge in size and feel? ---
**Author:** ![Dalex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dalex/32/43290_2.png) [@Dalex](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Dalex)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyofactory-horizon-2-prototype-release/316636/9 "2020-03-13T15:46:57Z")
I successfully tried again an hour ago. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![AndreBoulay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andreboulay/32/69662_2.png) [@AndreBoulay](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AndreBoulay)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyofactory-horizon-2-prototype-release/316636/10 "2020-03-13T15:56:06Z")
The cup is similar to Czech Point Pivot - but I think they have continued to perfect things - it really ‘sticks’ nicely and pulls the finger in to the center. The yoyo is really impressive! ---
**Author:** ![jsn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jsn/32/104018_2.png) [@jsn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jsn)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyofactory-horizon-2-prototype-release/316636/11 "2020-03-13T16:00:42Z")
That’s great to hear I believe the pivot cup is way better. ---
**Author:** ![jeduardo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jeduardo/32/624173_2.png) [@jeduardo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jeduardo)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyofactory-horizon-2-prototype-release/316636/12 "2020-03-22T00:43:52Z")
for those who got the new Horizon 2, any feedback? how does it play?