# Yoyo similar toYYJ Phenom

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-similar-toyyj-phenom/306590>\
**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\
**Created:** [August 8, 2019, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-similar-toyyj-phenom/306590 "2019-08-08T22:16:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![CaoJAsian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@CaoJAsian](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/CaoJAsian)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-similar-toyyj-phenom/306590/1 "2019-08-08T22:16:41Z")

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Are there any yoyos out there that match the Phenom in terms of weight/size/shape? Bonus if it’s $60 USD or less. It’s my favourite yoyo that I’ve thrown so far and my current one needs to be retired soon (too many hits against the cement). Obviously I can buy another Phenom but with them not being in production anymore, I doubt I can find a brand new one within my budget.

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**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-similar-toyyj-phenom/306590/2 "2019-08-08T22:21:24Z")

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Well there is this but… it ain’t exactly $60… or even $160…

> **[Sturm Panzer](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/sturm-panzer?variant=16002117271626)**