# Yoyo my friends and I designed SPECS PG 1
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-my-friends-and-i-designed-specs-pg-1/56216
**Category:** General Yo-Yo
**Created:** [July 8, 2013, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-my-friends-and-i-designed-specs-pg-1/56216 "2013-07-08T17:22:03Z")
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### Author:  [@n00bbeginner](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/n00bbeginner)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2013, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-my-friends-and-i-designed-specs-pg-1/56216/1 "2013-07-08T17:22:03Z")
About 2-3 weeks ago, my friends and I started designing a yoyo. We based the design off RecRev’s TA-1 and Ocillatrix. Right now we have two main issues; we need C-bearing seat dimensions and don’t know what axle we should use( side effects, STAX, or regular axle). So we thought we should put this out into the community for any advice.
Specs:
Diameter: 52.13mm
Width: 43mm
Weight: 65 grams
Bearing: C sized
We call it “The Hybrid”
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### Author:  [@Big\_cat](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Big_cat)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2013, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-my-friends-and-i-designed-specs-pg-1/56216/2 "2013-07-08T17:32:05Z")
Looks cool, could we see a cross section? Hopefully that question won’t turn this thread in to the next Ricochet thread… 😃
Oh yes, and I’d say go for Side Effects. At the moment, they have more options than STAX.
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### Author:  [@Jdrabik](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jdrabik)
#### Post date: [July 8, 2013, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-my-friends-and-i-designed-specs-pg-1/56216/3 "2013-07-08T18:37:07Z")
Yeah, if you’re looking for adjustability use SE’s. They have more options and I’ve heard that a lot of people are having problems with STAX.
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### Author:  [@n00bbeginner](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/n00bbeginner)
#### Post date: [July 9, 2013, 5:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-my-friends-and-i-designed-specs-pg-1/56216/4 "2013-07-09T05:13:03Z")
> [@Big\_cat](#):
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> Looks cool, could we see a cross section? Hopefully that question won’t turn this thread in to the next Ricochet thread… 😃
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> Oh yes, and I’d say go for Side Effects. At the moment, they have more options than STAX.
Sorry, I’m new to CAD designing. What is a cross section?
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### Author:  [@Big\_cat](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Big_cat)
#### Post date: [July 9, 2013, 5:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-my-friends-and-i-designed-specs-pg-1/56216/5 "2013-07-09T05:19:46Z")
> [@n00bbeginner](#):
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> > [@Big\_cat](#):
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> > Looks cool, could we see a cross section? Hopefully that question won’t turn this thread in to the next Ricochet thread… 😃
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> > Oh yes, and I’d say go for Side Effects. At the moment, they have more options than STAX.
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> Sorry, I’m new to CAD designing. What is a cross section?
Imagine if you took one half of the yoyo, and cut it in half horizontally. Then we would be able to see the weight distribution, thickness of the walls, etc.
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### Author:  [@n00bbeginner](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/n00bbeginner)
#### Post date: [July 9, 2013, 5:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-my-friends-and-i-designed-specs-pg-1/56216/6 "2013-07-09T05:27:14Z")
Thanks! I think i know what you mean now. I’ll post it later tomorrow after my I get operating system re-installed.
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### Author:  [@yoyo143](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyo143)
#### Post date: [July 9, 2013, 5:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-my-friends-and-i-designed-specs-pg-1/56216/7 "2013-07-09T05:41:13Z")
That looks really nice! I’d say use side effects, my 2nd choice would be STAX.
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### Author:  [@n00bbeginner](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/n00bbeginner)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2013, 4:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-my-friends-and-i-designed-specs-pg-1/56216/8 "2013-07-10T04:14:26Z")
> [@yoyo143](#):
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> That looks really nice! I’d say use side effects, my 2nd choice would be STAX.
We decided for prototyping purposes, we are going to go with a regular axle. Then if we change our minds, side effects will be a point of discussion when a run of protos come into play
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### Author:  [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2013, 4:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-my-friends-and-i-designed-specs-pg-1/56216/9 "2013-07-10T04:21:18Z")
Don’t use STAX, they are a flawed axle system. Go for Side Effects.
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### Author:  [@Yummy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yummy)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2013, 4:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-my-friends-and-i-designed-specs-pg-1/56216/10 "2013-07-10T04:42:39Z")
> [@yoyospirit](#):
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> [STAX] are a flawed axle system.
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### Author:  [@JeiCheetah](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JeiCheetah)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2013, 5:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-my-friends-and-i-designed-specs-pg-1/56216/11 "2013-07-10T05:16:20Z")
> [@yoyospirit](#):
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> Don’t use STAX, they are a flawed axle system. Go for Side Effects.
Not in my experience.
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### Author:  [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2013, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-my-friends-and-i-designed-specs-pg-1/56216/12 "2013-07-10T12:52:21Z")
From what I’ve seen, STAX are the equivalent of say, using two bolts to hold a Dv888 which has stripped threads together. They are hard to screw together tightly.
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### Author:  [@Nemyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nemyo)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2013, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-my-friends-and-i-designed-specs-pg-1/56216/13 "2013-07-10T14:18:25Z")
Eh, yoyospirit, STAX are basically just Side Effects made of plastic minus the rubber O Rings. I’d go for SEs for your yoyo, but if you wanna keep it cheaper (I assume STAX are cheaper than SEs) got for STAX.
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### Author:  [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2013, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-my-friends-and-i-designed-specs-pg-1/56216/14 "2013-07-10T17:02:43Z")
> [@Nemyo](#):
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> Eh, yoyospirit, STAX are basically just Side Effects made of plastic minus the rubber O Rings. I’d go for SEs for your yoyo, but if you wanna keep it cheaper (I assume STAX are cheaper than SEs) got for STAX.
They’re plastic? Maybe I should take a closer look at how these work… Are they a tight fit or do they fall out if the yoyo isn’t screwed together?
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### Author:  [@nardcopter](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nardcopter)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2013, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-my-friends-and-i-designed-specs-pg-1/56216/15 "2013-07-10T17:10:53Z")
> [@Nemyo](#):
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> Eh, yoyospirit, STAX are basically just Side Effects made of plastic minus the rubber O Rings. I’d go for SEs for your yoyo, but if you wanna keep it cheaper (I assume STAX are cheaper than SEs) got for STAX.
Stax are metal. I thought they were plastic too, and Studio42 yelled at me saying “I think I know why I’m talking about I asked the guy at the booth.”
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### Author:  [@n00bbeginner](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/n00bbeginner)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2013, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-my-friends-and-i-designed-specs-pg-1/56216/16 "2013-07-10T20:47:30Z")
Sooner than expected, my friends and I have discussed that we will use a regular axle.
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### Author:  [@Hendy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hendy)
#### Post date: [July 10, 2013, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-my-friends-and-i-designed-specs-pg-1/56216/17 "2013-07-10T21:29:55Z")
Stax are good. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. Maybe SE’s are better (never used em), but there’s absolutely nothing wrong with stax. They work great. They keep the yoyo together, don’t induce vibe, and look nice. Nothing to complain about, just a nice, functional replaceable axle system.
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### Author:  [@n00bbeginner](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/n00bbeginner)
#### Post date: [July 11, 2013, 12:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-my-friends-and-i-designed-specs-pg-1/56216/18 "2013-07-11T00:54:53Z")
We plan on having a few protos made before summer ends. All of which will use a regular axle with flowable. Specs will be posted soon
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### Author:  [@n00bbeginner](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/n00bbeginner)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2013, 6:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-my-friends-and-i-designed-specs-pg-1/56216/19 "2013-07-12T06:23:39Z")
Also, I sent the design to jupdyke, and he is going to fix the issues(along with the bearing seat)