# YoYo Factory equivalent of the YoYo Jam Dark Magic **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [January 13, 2013, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-factory-equivalent-of-the-yoyo-jam-dark-magic/48075 "2013-01-13T17:51:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![QFC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/49beb7/32.png) [@QFC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/QFC)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2013, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-factory-equivalent-of-the-yoyo-jam-dark-magic/48075/1 "2013-01-13T17:51:34Z")
Title pretty much says it all. I’m looking for a new yo yo and I’m somewhat torn. Thanks for any advice you can give. ---
**Author:** ![Yonut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Yonut](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yonut)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2013, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-factory-equivalent-of-the-yoyo-jam-dark-magic/48075/2 "2013-01-13T17:56:27Z")
I can’t think of anything. They don’t have that many highwalled throws. ---
**Author:** ![Jackybigz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@Jackybigz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jackybigz)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2013, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-factory-equivalent-of-the-yoyo-jam-dark-magic/48075/3 "2013-01-13T18:36:58Z")
Closest I would say it probably northstar or protostar. I don’t have a DM so I have no idea how it plays, just from the looks and what people say about the two, they seem similar. ---
**Author:** ![Yonut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Yonut](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yonut)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2013, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-factory-equivalent-of-the-yoyo-jam-dark-magic/48075/4 "2013-01-13T18:39:06Z")
> [@Jackybigz](#): > > Closest I would say it probably northstar or protostar. I don’t have a DM so I have no idea how it plays, just from the looks and what people say about the two, they seem similar. Nah, the DM2 is highwalled, solid, stable, and SLOW. The Northstar is lowwalled, kind of floaty, and can be pushed to go fast. ---
**Author:** ![pkb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pkb/32/965_2.png) [@pkb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/pkb)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2013, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-factory-equivalent-of-the-yoyo-jam-dark-magic/48075/5 "2013-01-13T18:53:10Z")
Maybe a Counter Attack? I have a PGM which is supposed to be the same body. The PGM has similar size and shape to the DM2, but my PGM plays nowhere near the level of the DM2. Can’t speak for the Counter Attack as I’ve never thrown one. ---
**Author:** ![QFC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/49beb7/32.png) [@QFC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/QFC)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2013, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-factory-equivalent-of-the-yoyo-jam-dark-magic/48075/6 "2013-01-13T21:17:29Z")
> [@pkb](#): > > Maybe a Counter Attack? I have a PGM which is supposed to be the same body. The PGM has similar size and shape to the DM2, but my PGM plays nowhere near the level of the DM2. Can’t speak for the Counter Attack as I’ve never thrown one. PGM being the plastic Grind Machine, right? ---
**Author:** ![phil\_the\_lizard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/91b2a8/32.png) [@phil\_the\_lizard](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/phil_the_lizard)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2013, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-factory-equivalent-of-the-yoyo-jam-dark-magic/48075/7 "2013-01-13T21:43:10Z")
> [@QFC](#): > > > [@pkb](#): > > > > Maybe a Counter Attack? I have a PGM which is supposed to be the same body. The PGM has similar size and shape to the DM2, but my PGM plays nowhere near the level of the DM2. Can’t speak for the Counter Attack as I’ve never thrown one. > > PGM being the plastic Grind Machine, right? Yes ---
**Author:** ![QFC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/49beb7/32.png) [@QFC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/QFC)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 1:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-factory-equivalent-of-the-yoyo-jam-dark-magic/48075/8 "2013-01-15T01:13:51Z")
Well I just ordered my DM2 Toxic Frog 🙂 Cant wait to get it! ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 1:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-factory-equivalent-of-the-yoyo-jam-dark-magic/48075/9 "2013-01-15T01:45:09Z")
> [@QFC](#): > > Well I just ordered my DM2 Toxic Frog 🙂 Cant wait to get it! I already have a blue DM2, so it’s hard (for me; not for everyone!) to justify buying another one. But I sure do love the look of the Toxic Frog. Amazing. Lucky you!