# Yoyo companies... Here's an idea!
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-companies-heres-an-idea/17770
**Category:** General Yo-Yo
**Created:** [August 10, 2010, 2:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-companies-heres-an-idea/17770 "2010-08-10T02:16:51Z")
**Posts on this page:** 12
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### Author:  [@cameron](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/cameron)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2010, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-companies-heres-an-idea/17770/21 "2010-08-10T23:08:19Z")
[quote=“Elephark,post:20,topic:17770”]
> [@Cameron (and his yoyo)](#):
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> Um, what? Anodization creates a transparent layer on the surface of the aluminum which is then dyed. A mask such as rubber cement can be applied to prevent the dye from adhering to a specific area, but the whole yoyo is still anodized.
Anodizing creates little bumps on the yoyo, then dye fills the holes and you seal it but closing those holes when you steam it. I think your getting mixed up with nickel and nickel oxide.
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### Author:  [@Elephark](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Elephark)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2010, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-companies-heres-an-idea/17770/22 "2010-08-10T23:29:02Z")
[quote=“Cameron (and his yoyo),post:21,topic:17770”]
Yes…
I don’t see what’s so hard about this. You dye anodization and that’s what gives it the color. If you paint it, the paint covers it, just as it would any other surface. You get a painted surface. Paint doesn’t penetrate, dye does.
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### Author:  [@cameron](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/cameron)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2010, 11:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-companies-heres-an-idea/17770/23 "2010-08-10T23:40:09Z")
[quote=“Elephark,post:22,topic:17770”]
> [@Cameron (and his yoyo)](#):
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> Yes…
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> I don’t see what’s so hard about this. You dye anodization and that’s what gives it the color. If you paint it, the paint covers it, just as it would any other surface. You get a painted surface. Paint doesn’t penetrate, dye does.
What I’m saying is could you dilute paint with water like you do with dye to where it could be accepted into the metal, except since no one has tried it I don’t think you know what would happen.
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### Author:  [@Elephark](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Elephark)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2010, 11:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-companies-heres-an-idea/17770/24 "2010-08-10T23:45:45Z")
[quote=“Cameron (and his yoyo),post:23,topic:17770”]
What I’m saying is no.
[quote=“Cameron (and his yoyo),post:23,topic:17770”]
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### Author:  [@cameron](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/cameron)
#### Post date: [August 11, 2010, 12:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-companies-heres-an-idea/17770/25 "2010-08-11T00:16:34Z")
[quote=“Elephark,post:24,topic:17770”]
[quote=“Cameron (and his yoyo),post:23,topic:17770”]
What I’m saying is no.
> [@Cameron (and his yoyo)](#):
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> [http://www.dailyhaggis.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/o\_rly.jpg](http://www.dailyhaggis.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/o_rly.jpg)
Who has tried it then?
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### Author:  [@Elephark](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Elephark)
#### Post date: [August 11, 2010, 1:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-companies-heres-an-idea/17770/26 "2010-08-11T01:08:41Z")
[quote=“Cameron (and his yoyo),post:25,topic:17770”]
Couldn’t tell you personally, but there is a reason anyone with anodizing experience will tell you why you can’t anodize white\*, glow, or fluorescent colors. You have to use dye. Paint doesn’t work. The pores are too small. Trying to argue with me about it won’t change how it is.
\*Well, it is possible to anodize in white, but it’s a different procedure and doesn’t involve dye or paint. And, well…have fun finding someone to do it for you.
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### Author:  [@quinton](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/quinton)
#### Post date: [August 11, 2010, 1:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-companies-heres-an-idea/17770/27 "2010-08-11T01:27:31Z")
Cameron, Jacob has a more profound knowledge of this sort of thing than you or me could ever hope to have. Enough.
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### Author:  [@yoyoaddict96](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoaddict96)
#### Post date: [August 11, 2010, 2:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-companies-heres-an-idea/17770/28 "2010-08-11T02:51:57Z")
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### Author:  [@ElendilAndurilz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ElendilAndurilz)
#### Post date: [August 11, 2010, 3:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-companies-heres-an-idea/17770/29 "2010-08-11T03:02:12Z")
It’s basic science Cameron. You don’t seem to have a solid grasp on the difference between the layer of oxidization that anodizing forms, versus a rigid sanded surface used for priming paint. They are not the same. I don’t like to rule anything out as impossible, but it’s extremely unlikely there will ever be any sort of dye useful with an anodization process that could glow, and if there ever is it wouldn’t work like current glow paints or necessarily be practical for use.
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### Author:  [@Elephark](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Elephark)
#### Post date: [August 11, 2010, 3:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-companies-heres-an-idea/17770/30 "2010-08-11T03:11:08Z")
> [@yoyoaddict96 link=topic=19193.msg193822#msg193822 date=1281495117\]\[quote author=Q](#):
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But having watched with interest several discussions about it over the years, I think I’ve learned the answer. Which is, incidentally, also quite easily found with a bit of help from Google.
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### Author:  [@yoyoaddict96](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoaddict96)
#### Post date: [August 11, 2010, 3:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-companies-heres-an-idea/17770/31 "2010-08-11T03:28:27Z")
> [@Elephark](#):
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> > [@yoyoaddict96 link=topic=19193.msg193822#msg193822 date=1281495117\]\[quote author=Q](#):
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> But having watched with interest several discussions about it over the years, I think I’ve learned the answer. Which is, incidentally, also quite easily found with a bit of help from Google.
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### Author:  [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)
#### Post date: [August 11, 2010, 3:32am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-companies-heres-an-idea/17770/32 "2010-08-11T03:32:53Z")
Coming from an anodizer. “Paint won’t work at all. it actually looks terrible and rubs of very quickly. It doesn’t penetrate the ano so it just doesn’t work.”
That being said…LOCK!!!
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