# Yoyo CAD & Prototyping Adventures **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Mods and Maintenance\ **Created:** [August 7, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547 "2018-08-07T15:40:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 73
**Author:** ![MarkD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/markd/32/40845_2.png) [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1471 "2024-04-22T14:35:00Z")
The simplest way to sell small quantities of yoyos is in BST posts and arranging sales privately through DMs, you can get paid through paypal, etc. Having a website presence or social media account can be useful but isn’t necessary, strictly speaking. It is usually not possible to wholesale to retailers unless you have a longer term plan to market and promote the yo-yos so that they don’t become dead stock at the store. For retail you also need to spend more time working on packaging, logos, art, etc. They need something to work with, the product doesn’t speak for itself. > [@redativity](#): > > What does thinking about it as a business entail? This depends on where you live. There are different rules about reporting expenses/income that you should familiarize yourself with. This can be important during tax filing when you have expenses that you want to deduct. So, you need to keep careful records of your expenses and income specifically related to manufacturing and selling yo-yos. Note that in the US, you cannot deduct hobby expenses from hobby income. So if you are not running a business with intent to make a profit, you may be surprised that you still have a tax liability from your yo-yo sales. > [@redativity](#): > > If I do a production run after the protos, it will likely be at least 20 to 30. What you are describing is a business. You should plan it out properly - expenses, marketing, etc. ---
**Author:** ![hobbygod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hobbygod/32/120997_2.png) [@hobbygod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobbygod)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1472 "2024-04-22T14:50:30Z")
Depends on the person. Different designers charge different things. Some people want protos, etc ---
**Author:** ![AtomicChessGuy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/atomicchessguy/32/606394_2.png) [@AtomicChessGuy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AtomicChessGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1473 "2024-04-22T14:53:00Z")
What do **you** charge just for the design process? ---
**Author:** ![redativity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@redativity](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/redativity)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1474 "2024-04-22T15:54:06Z")
Thanks! Guess I can start with the bst section of this forum then. Seems like actually designing the yoyo will be the least of my worries. ---
**Author:** ![dragonfruitea](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dragonfruitea/32/274671_2.png) [@dragonfruitea](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dragonfruitea)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1475 "2024-04-22T16:24:37Z")
it kind of looks like the edge beyond or something from the edge line ---
**Author:** ![Raindog3030](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/raindog3030/32/131635_2.png) [@Raindog3030](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Raindog3030)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1476 "2024-04-22T18:35:32Z")
For me, there is no flat rate. Each project is quoted based on the customers needs. Bimetals take more design time than a monometal. Arguably, 7068, SS, and Ti all take more time than a 6061 might. You want side effects? Some weird response pads? Maybe the client wants me to interface with my machinist (or multiple), as well. There are just too many variables to throw a flat rate out there. My suggestion, reach out and get quotes from multiple designers. Then choose one. This is also a LPT for hiring any type of contracted labor. ---
**Author:** ![AtomicChessGuy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/atomicchessguy/32/606394_2.png) [@AtomicChessGuy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AtomicChessGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1477 "2024-04-22T22:26:07Z")
Okay, thank you! I’m not planning on commissioning someone to make a design I was just curious. ---
**Author:** ![rizurizu44](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rizurizu44/32/706777_2.png) [@rizurizu44](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rizurizu44)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 3:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1478 "2024-04-23T03:59:21Z")
yes. as i said, inspired by YYF edge ultimatum, yoyorecreation acrophobia and savage. i believe many yoyo out there was inspired by another yoyo and we can find some similar shape and details on some yoyo. ---
**Author:** ![AtomicChessGuy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/atomicchessguy/32/606394_2.png) [@AtomicChessGuy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AtomicChessGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2024, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1479 "2024-04-24T18:57:32Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/2/6/8/268622a3aeff2cc868db19fabf6cfa11799a98c9.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/5/5/e/55e3e2e6162dd92dc2c0f880ac69f74bf883ed2b.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/2/6/2/262294ad620595398d90ccca9cafbc2564858db6.jpeg) Specs: Width: 48mm Diameter: 50mm Half Weight: 30gms Body: 7075 Aluminum Rims: Copper MMOI: 13500 Made this to be a smaller, lighter yoyo than I usually make. Thoughts anyone? ---
**Author:** ![AtomicChessGuy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/atomicchessguy/32/606394_2.png) [@AtomicChessGuy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AtomicChessGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2024, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1480 "2024-04-26T20:23:40Z")
![IMG_0938](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/1/2/b/12be7d225506310f72f7803985c8bc63b78587c5.jpeg) ![IMG_0937](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/4/d/8/4d826ad2e6298523d8d75da8a566bf464eb1dee6.jpeg) ![IMG_0936](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/8/0/3/8037cf485f9ebcbe430743eae7488e627b469cc8.jpeg) ![IMG_0935](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/1/8/8/188e4a28869e421bb573f9da4360b1b7de01fd8f.jpeg) I rendered some of my older designs in fusion 360. Are these any good? ---
**Author:** ![hsb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hsb/32/193274_2.png) [@hsb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hsb)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2024, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1481 "2024-04-26T21:05:56Z")
I would buy that mono. ---
**Author:** ![MarkD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/markd/32/40845_2.png) [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1482 "2024-04-27T19:44:47Z")
> [@AtomicChessGuy](#): > > Thoughts anyone? this looks fine, though I’d adjust the rims to have more overlap area (horizontally) with the body to make them stick on better. The part that hangs down into the cup doesn’t do anything for it mechanically, so that can be thinner. The rim angle is very flat, and while that’s better than actually flat, it doesn’t help the yoyo catch zone much at all. > [@AtomicChessGuy](#): > > I rendered some of my older designs in fusion 360. Are these any good? First one probably needs a larger dimple in the hub to fit a finger - measure your finger (imagine the tip is a circle) and compare to where the landing area is. Many dimples are at least 12mm across (C3 SHXX), some are even larger. Make sure as well that the cone around the dimple isn’t too sharp. The profile shape of this yoyo looks good; the outer rim maybe a tad sharp for my personal tastes. The red one feels like a nice take on profile set weight rings. The H shape is good - cup feels boring in comparison. But it works. ---
**Author:** ![AtomicChessGuy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/atomicchessguy/32/606394_2.png) [@AtomicChessGuy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AtomicChessGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2024, 3:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1483 "2024-04-29T03:26:27Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/7/6/8/768dcfb142081a70f7c22ee2f11bca413691ddd3.jpeg) ![Organic_7075_+_Gold_Isometric](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/0/6/1/061cb52227e898160916434568d9f60a18344875.jpeg) ![Organic_7075_+_Gold_Front](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/6/7/c/67ca67b67bb47326d953511d6d8dd85943b10edf.jpeg) Made the classic organic style yoyo everyone makes. Gold Inner rings. Probably wouldn’t be manufacturable due to the nature of gold being too soft. And it was manufacturable it would be really expensive. Just an idea though. Specs: Width: 48mm Diameter: 52mm Half Weight: 31.1gms Body: 7075 Aluminum Rings: Gold Thoughts anyone? ---
**Author:** ![Prion\_yoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/prion_yoyos/32/190184_2.png) [@Prion\_yoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Prion_yoyos)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2024, 3:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1484 "2024-04-29T03:31:45Z")
reminds me of the Luftverk 000 and Enso UI ---
**Author:** ![Lingsais](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lingsais/32/107913_2.png) [@Lingsais](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lingsais)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2024, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1485 "2024-04-29T21:18:43Z")
Anyone care to do a checkup on the dimensions of a throw I designed? I got a local shop who is willing to produce one for free but dont want to waste this chance by having my dimensions wrong? Hit me up in PM if you want to check it out ---
**Author:** ![rizurizu44](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rizurizu44/32/706777_2.png) [@rizurizu44](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rizurizu44)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 2:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1486 "2024-04-30T02:43:26Z")
if you want a gold inner rings, it doesn’t have to be full of gold, you can try using aluminium with gold anodize / gold plating like yoyojam did with phenom (pardon me if i wrong) and still possible to make it real. ---
**Author:** ![AtomicChessGuy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/atomicchessguy/32/606394_2.png) [@AtomicChessGuy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AtomicChessGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 2:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1487 "2024-04-30T02:46:06Z")
Good Idea! I don’t know how I would do that in CAD though. ---
**Author:** ![Prion\_yoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/prion_yoyos/32/190184_2.png) [@Prion\_yoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Prion_yoyos)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 3:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1488 "2024-04-30T03:18:53Z")
in cad, all you have to do is make the rings out of aluminum, and maybe (although this is optional) also add a small steel ring (like about .005mm in thickness) to them to simulate the .05-.1 g of added weight from gold electroplating. although gold is dense, electroplating only adds a few micrometers, so any added weight is negligible. ---
**Author:** ![AtomicChessGuy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/atomicchessguy/32/606394_2.png) [@AtomicChessGuy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AtomicChessGuy)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2024, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1489 "2024-05-01T15:40:15Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/3/5/1/3512a47f0144adc8ef99b3353013e3938226b542.jpeg) ![5_Cut_V_6061_+_SS_Front](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/6/d/1/6d112c3d1646cc92e67809fd9e175934cc250d99.jpeg) Just a practice yoyo I made. Specs: Width: 50mm Diameter: 56mm Weight: 31.48gms MMOI: 15925 Thoughts anyone? P.S. On a completely unrelated sidenote I finally landed 3.0 hook yesterday! ---
**Author:** ![AtomicChessGuy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/atomicchessguy/32/606394_2.png) [@AtomicChessGuy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AtomicChessGuy)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2024, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1490 "2024-05-02T17:18:24Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/e/9/ce960b71387feba57bd284354f98dfe4a64baaf1.jpeg) ![H-Shape_7075_+SS+_Brass_Front](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/2/5/e/25e2de2532c86d15d4907ad0555f92a4e1d44573.jpeg) ![H-Shape_7075_+SS+_Brass_Isometric](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/b/f/2/bf284917e3fe9102791dfd1bd7d509728564dfb6.jpeg) ![H-Shape_7075_+SS+_Brass_Aqua_Front](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/0/1/5/0158b67f9c090a9552e420c1544c15043a9ff33c.jpeg) ![H-Shape_7075_+SS+_Brass_Aqua_Isometric](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/e/a/5/ea5e1c62c8ad645bbaaeccbeab40846ff1bb0615.jpeg) ![H-Shape_7075_+SS+_Brass_RainbowFade_Front](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/d/9/b/d9bc12436db2735cedd8470c509c698805afd0be.jpeg) ![H-Shape_7075_+SS+_Brass_RainbowFade_Isometric](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/e/b/6/eb6dbdaac13e242a6b09d3f889499b9f3ee4df5b.jpeg) Trimetal Yoyo! Specs: Width: 49mm Diameter: 54mm Half Weight: 30.9gms MMOI: 16151 Body: 7075 Aluminum Outer Rings: 303 Stainless Steel Inner Rings: Brass Thoughts anyone? Also this is my first fade. Does it look good? [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547.md?page=72) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547.md?page=74)