# Yoyo CAD & Prototyping Adventures

**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547
**Category:** Yo-Yo Mods and Maintenance
**Created:** [August 7, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547 "2018-08-07T15:40:59Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2023, 1:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1348 "2023-12-18T01:14:40Z")

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That looks complex and risky from a manufacturing perspective.

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### Author: ![Prion\_yoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/prion_yoyos/32/190184_2.png) [@Prion\_yoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Prion_yoyos)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2023, 1:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1349 "2023-12-18T01:16:45Z")

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it was mostly just as a cad challenge anyways, and i have no doubt it’d play all sorts of goofy ways with all the center weight

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### Author: ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2023, 1:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1350 "2023-12-18T01:24:08Z")

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I’ll admit, I’m nit too sure what’s going on there.

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### Author: ![Prion\_yoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/prion_yoyos/32/190184_2.png) [@Prion\_yoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Prion_yoyos)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2023, 1:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1351 "2023-12-18T01:26:17Z")

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its an aluminum hub with 3 polycarbonate rings embedded in the hub, with a polycarbonate shell extending the profile further.

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### Author: ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2023, 1:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1352 "2023-12-18T01:29:36Z")

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That’s what I thought. Its an intersting design for sure.

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### Author: ![Prion\_yoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/prion_yoyos/32/190184_2.png) [@Prion\_yoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Prion_yoyos)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2023, 1:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1353 "2023-12-18T01:29:54Z")

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thanks

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### Author: ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2023, 3:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1354 "2023-12-18T03:28:35Z")

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This thing looks silly I love it. If it works it would probably be really neat to play with.

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### Author: ![Prion\_yoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/prion_yoyos/32/190184_2.png) [@Prion\_yoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Prion_yoyos)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2023, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1355 "2023-12-18T17:33:32Z")

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thank you. one issue i do foresee is the possibility of lots of vibe, but hopefully if a prototype gets made there wont be too much

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### Author: ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)
#### Post date: [December 19, 2023, 11:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1356 "2023-12-19T23:58:52Z")

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Just for fun, I’ve redesigned the DV888 to be more modernised.

50mm X 45mm X 66g. Haven’t finished yet.

It has a concave cup that’s subtle but should be pretty functional for DNA tricks.

When Ive done with it, I might actually send it to YYF for them to have a snicker over. Might give them some Christmas cheer. Lol.

 ![20231220_104102](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/d/4/7/d47e498c4dff1d9ef37f69bdff432b2333122388.jpeg)  
 ![20231220_104051](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/6/c/8/6c8c6519a6a941444db5da06af2d152adb49f7c6.jpeg)

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### Author: ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)
#### Post date: [December 20, 2023, 12:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1357 "2023-12-20T00:22:37Z")

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I would absolutely buy a yyf x spinworthy modern dv888 lol but it has to keep a bit of a rock on a string feel or what’s the point

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### Author: ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)
#### Post date: [December 20, 2023, 12:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1358 "2023-12-20T00:23:38Z")

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Oh absolutely! It needs to have rock feel, but why not add performance to that rock feel?

I’m just going to send them the design to see what they think. I don’t think they will be very keen on it for a number of reasons. The DV888 seems kinda close to their heart.

However, they do like messing around with their classics a bit, for example, the 888GT.

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### Author: ![malachigutwein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e95f7d/32.png) [@malachigutwein](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/malachigutwein)
#### Post date: [January 15, 2024, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1359 "2024-01-15T10:04:42Z")

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An interesting idea for a Lego-customizable 3d printed yoyo.

A lego axle would connect each half and would allow the inside of the cup to be customized with different legos just for fun.

Any thoughts on whether the Lego axle would sufficiently hold the halves together during play? The two halves can be just pulled apart. Would that be an issue when it’s spinning?

 ![Screenshot 2024-01-15 at 3.30.42 PM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/6/c/6/6c613ef796a15571b6db12b847166bd1a1f33efe.png)  
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#### Post date: [January 15, 2024, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1360 "2024-01-15T16:30:01Z")

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If it has enough depth it should hold up maybe a little bump or notch to act as a locking mechanism but in my experience those things if tight enough are hard to take out.

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### Author: ![TryCatchThrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/trycatchthrow/32/171307_2.png) [@TryCatchThrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TryCatchThrow)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2024, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1361 "2024-01-16T01:00:39Z")

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#### Post date: [January 16, 2024, 1:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1362 "2024-01-16T01:04:12Z")

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You should be able to use a technic axle bush to hold in place. It should work ok.

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#### Post date: [January 16, 2024, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1363 "2024-01-16T01:07:39Z")

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Is that a bearing seat?

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### Author: ![malachigutwein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e95f7d/32.png) [@malachigutwein](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/malachigutwein)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2024, 2:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1364 "2024-01-16T02:31:29Z")

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Yes, the top photo shows the bearing seat.

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### Author: ![BearingGoBRRR](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bearinggobrrr/32/677790_2.png) [@BearingGoBRRR](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/BearingGoBRRR)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2024, 2:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1365 "2024-01-31T02:06:01Z")

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Just picked up FreeCAD today and started playing around with it. Took me a few hours, but I finally made my first design (didn’t include a bearing in it and I’m not sure if I did the bearing seat right). I’d appreciate any advice or comments I can get since I still have a lot to learn. Also, thank you so much Mark for making the CAD tutorials!

 ![Bearing Seat](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/e/a/3/ea3771e158c6146d9971b6e9ae4eeb91ae4a8ce1.png)  
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 ![Stats](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/b/8/4/b84ce12d9b945d765a9e1af9862fb8d942467087.png)

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#### Post date: [January 31, 2024, 3:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1366 "2024-01-31T03:57:14Z")

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looks great, but moi seems to be on the low end if you happen to be wanting high performance out of the design. This isn’t unusual since your yoyo is 54mm in diameter (on the smaller end), mass is also on the lower end at 62.5g and the rims are quite small in diameter.

MOI is determined by how far the mass is distributed away from the rotational axis, so in order to increase performance it’s always worth trying to cram mass as far away from the rotational axis as possible.

Of course, not every yoyo is designed with absolute performance in mind, so there is nothing wrong with it in my opinion. I myself made yoyos that aren’t focused on maximizing performance, and I think they play very well.

If you’re interested in increasing moi, I’d say push the rims farther up towards the edge, or make the rims themselves thicker. I see that the walls of the yoyo are currently at 2.48mm. You can make this thinner. With 7068 aluminium, you can go as thin as 1-1.4mm but with 6061 you’d have to go a little thicker since 6061 is softer. However since 6061 is a little less dense than 7068, it shouldn’t be much of an issue.

Also when it comes to the rim area, I can see that the thickness remains constant. This could be a conscious decision as I think it looks aesthetically pleasing, but to maximize MOI, it can help to have the rim go thicker towards the edge instead of having it be constant in thickness.

As for the SS rim, it isn’t angled in a way to make fitting it viable. Keep in mind, rims and bodies are made separately and are press fit, so you need to have everything angled in a way that you can simply push it in. In this case, I’d make sure that the bottom of the rim is parallel to the x-axis.

An example would be kinda like this:

 ![mid rim](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/5/f/2/5f24582b5f5b7fefdbcfedc773db0f9d654b6478.png)

Either way, I’d say it’s a great first attempt at your first design.

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#### Post date: [January 31, 2024, 4:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1367 "2024-01-31T04:11:27Z")

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Thank you so much for the advice. I wanted to maintain some mobility, but I didn’t realize that it was lacking in (hypothetical) spintime. I was also unsure how to go about the walls and the thicknesses overall, so I’ll try modifying the wall thickness and weight distribution. I was mostly trying to learn/setup freecad today, so I’ll try playing around with the design some more when I get freetime. Just curious, what is a good range for MOI?

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