# Yoyo CAD & Prototyping Adventures **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Mods and Maintenance\ **Created:** [August 7, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547 "2018-08-07T15:40:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 58
**Author:** ![TheThrowingGnome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/thethrowinggnome/32/14231_2.png) [@TheThrowingGnome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheThrowingGnome)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1166 "2021-05-07T15:59:32Z")
> [@Kray](#): > > Fusion 360 is definitely the way more advanced tool. But FreeCAD is able todo the job for free. Can FreeCAD do part assemblies to model moving parts and such if I intend on designing mechanical parts with moving pieces as well as yo-yos? My first run through the render on Fusion I was not impressed. The renders Mark is showing from Blender look much better. I’m sure there are some advanced techniques to render in in Fusion360 that I don’t know yet. (Pic of first Render below) > [@Kray](#): > > (Be aware in 3D printing you will not be able to print yoyo threads (M4) in a good enough quality. Just make a 4mm hole and screw them in) Wow, ok! Been through many tutorials on threads for other ideas, but didn’t realize I wouldn’t need them for 3D printed yo-yos. I guess after you “thread” the hole with an M4 axle then you’ve created the threads right?!? Do you find you can unscrew and rescrew the axle and it’ll follow the same path once you “thread” it manually the first time or is it more like set it and leave it thing? ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/0/4/1/0410708bc32c58ce5090d007548316cae6e7d6df.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![TheThrowingGnome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/thethrowinggnome/32/14231_2.png) [@TheThrowingGnome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheThrowingGnome)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1167 "2021-05-07T16:01:28Z")
> [@MarkD](#): > > Blender for product visualization instead of the CAD tools. Yeah your Blender renders look great! Seems like they look better than what I’m seeing in Fusion 360. Would you agree? ---
**Author:** ![TheThrowingGnome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/thethrowinggnome/32/14231_2.png) [@TheThrowingGnome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheThrowingGnome)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1168 "2021-05-07T16:03:23Z")
> [@Kray](#): > > It played sh\*t… Since the string gets caught on the small edges. Ha! Yeah, I was wondering about that! Great concept though! ---
**Author:** ![Kray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kray/32/92176_2.png) [@Kray](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Kray)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1169 "2021-05-07T16:15:49Z")
U start throwing everything in one pot. Rendering has nothing todo with modeling. You can export models from every modeler and render it with basically every renderer. You can use side effects to get away from the threads or simply use nuts as Jeffrey does in his models. ---
**Author:** ![TheThrowingGnome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/thethrowinggnome/32/14231_2.png) [@TheThrowingGnome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheThrowingGnome)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1170 "2021-05-07T16:25:59Z")
> [@Kray](#): > > Rendering has nothing todo with modeling. I get that, it’s neat to generate these super realistic renders though. Some I see from @Palli and @MarkD it’s almost impossible to tell if it’s real or not. Just curious if there was one program in particular that excelled at this. ---
**Author:** ![Kray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kray/32/92176_2.png) [@Kray](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Kray)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1171 "2021-05-07T16:26:51Z")
Blender is free and is made to make high quality pictures/movies. But it’s Modeling is catered toward games and movies. It is a organic process and has no constrain system as CAD tools do. I use blender a lot because of my game dev job. But I would not recommend it for your 3D print journey. But again to get this right u can plug basically every renderer into your pipeline. So no need to decide your modeler on the render results. And there a lot of different renders and 3D tools todo pure visualization easily. Blender itself comes with three different renders. Legacy, Cycles and Eve ---
**Author:** ![MarkD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/markd/32/40845_2.png) [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1172 "2021-05-07T16:46:54Z")
> [@TheThrowingGnome](#): > > Can FreeCAD do part assemblies to model moving parts and such if I intend on designing mechanical parts with moving pieces as well as yo-yos? Yes, though i’m not practiced in that at all. I’m not sure how nice it is but I know there are several assembly workbenches available. > [@TheThrowingGnome](#): > > Yeah your Blender renders look great! Seems like they look better than what I’m seeing in Fusion 360. Would you agree? Blender is far superior to any of the built in CAD rendering tools. I use the Cycles raytracer in blender for my recent stuff. ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1173 "2021-05-07T17:11:24Z")
In the past I avoided the whole axle threading issue by designing my prototypes to use One Drop Side Effects. But since I don’t intend to make any yoyos for actual production, the design dependence on SEs is not really an issue. ---
**Author:** ![TheThrowingGnome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/thethrowinggnome/32/14231_2.png) [@TheThrowingGnome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheThrowingGnome)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2021, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1174 "2021-05-10T13:04:52Z")
> [@Kray](#): > > Be aware in 3D printing you will not be able to print yoyo threads (M4) in a good enough quality. Apparently with carbon fiber filament printing threads is possible! Just have to spend 180$ per roll on filament… > [@Show some plastic yoyos you made](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/show-some-plastic-yoyos-you-made/301570/489): > > Printed from Onyx filamet (carbon fiber impregnated nylon). 56x46, pure organic, about 63g. My only complaint is the gap width is a little narrow. We used the Luftverk 3d printer spacers, but i didnt know that had a gap of \<4.2mm. [image] [image] [image] [image] [image] ---
**Author:** ![Kray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kray/32/92176_2.png) [@Kray](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Kray)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2021, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1175 "2021-05-10T13:25:50Z")
Try it and we will see… ---
**Author:** ![bheinz63](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bheinz63/32/137310_2.png) [@bheinz63](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bheinz63)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2021, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1176 "2021-05-10T18:18:36Z")
I’ve printed a yoyo with threads built right in using Onyx. It worked out great, the version we printed used the Luftverk spacer kit, but no nyloc nuts, just the 20mm axel and bearing seat. My only complaint I can come up with is the gap is too narrow, but thats a function of the bearing seat from the spacer kit. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/1/6/5/165104bc02b20bced5deae5d8cbf439f66d16b20.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/1/c/3/1c3083f05e5cd45ff9fef52564f4c4aa18f362a0.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/9/e/b/9eb88bf5bbc00c6a57ce3968630dad69e68383b5.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/8/1/a/81aabdc52b7101e8878b089007647eca22a7589e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![MarkD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/markd/32/40845_2.png) [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2021, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1177 "2021-05-21T13:19:16Z")
[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/4/8/9/48903bab1e40b5c533ec7ca5bea41d05e38f6484.jpeg "Mk1 Mechanics Part 3: Steel Rings") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AujdkIvf2sU) Part 3! Next one will be about Blender, and later I’ll go back through the CAD files to polish them up for export + prototyping. ---
**Author:** ![MarkD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/markd/32/40845_2.png) [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2021, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1178 "2021-05-29T14:43:02Z")
[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/3/0/8/308c52b6d3b98e4f9aebbe79374bdaae7cdb9e6d.jpeg "Mk1 Mechanics Part 4: Visualization") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pni_d01eCHg) Part 4. Ever wondered how I make nice renders these days? ![Three Yoyos](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/d/8/d/d8d761cc25a81b19d925b1d21ea96d3dfd161b29.jpeg) So, next video is probably going to be a mix of stuff… 1. Cleaning up the CAD file for export 2. Picking a colorway to use for prototyping 3. Typing up the specs and details for a machine shop 4. Ordering prototypes?? Here are the yoyo specs, as determined by FreeCAD + my yoyo macro: ```auto ============ ASSEMBLED YOYO ============ Half: 30.49 g Assembled: 63.77 g MMoI: 14809.12, 0.00, -0.00 0.00, 8033.00, 0.00 -0.00, 0.00, 8033.00 ``` 44mm wide 53mm diameter 4.45mm gap C bearing 8mm axle 7075 body + Steel rings Rings are approx. 11.5g If anyone has any thoughts or feedback about this design, I’d love to hear it since I want to involve the community a bit more than my last couple pieces. ---
**Author:** ![Solzero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/solzero/32/131203_2.png) [@Solzero](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Solzero)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 3:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1179 "2021-07-12T03:43:14Z")
Hi I’m new to this forum I found out about this thread and wanted to share a design I made. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/9/c/e/9ceb545d561365c248e5059819880adf031af577.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/d/9/0/d9041762b14b739c6f0db80469e92d813d023acc.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/6/a/e/6ae5dbe69035a6a9e493c80f74a386146fdc048e.png) The yoyo is 63 grams, 55mm diameter, 56mm wide, 6061 aluminum, C bearing, and 10mm axle. Any feedback would be appreciated. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MarkD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/markd/32/40845_2.png) [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1180 "2021-07-12T12:16:35Z")
It looks like the center of the cup isn’t quite at the x-axis, so there’s a little hole ---
**Author:** ![hobby\_master](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hobby_master/32/145533_2.png) [@hobby\_master](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobby_master)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1181 "2021-07-12T12:29:06Z")
Welcome! Honestly… that looks like the same as 20 other yoyos that came out in the last year. Might be better to just buy one already made and ano’d. Or maybe try tweaking the design a little- or dont. What do I know really 😆 ---
**Author:** ![Niki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/niki/32/191426_2.png) [@Niki](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Niki)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1182 "2021-07-15T10:34:46Z")
Random thought… has anyone made a wood yoyo with metal rims? ---
**Author:** ![piano\_man19](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/piano_man19/32/127975_2.png) [@piano\_man19](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/piano_man19)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1183 "2021-07-15T11:13:36Z")
I was wondering the same thing recently. I came across the Yoyo Jam Jamboo, which is wood/metal hybrid. ![latest](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/a/1/7/a17c50c558ece61c2ce9d80e9608fc57f03c0c37.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Niki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/niki/32/191426_2.png) [@Niki](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Niki)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1184 "2021-07-15T11:46:41Z")
That’s cool~ wonder how it plays ---
**Author:** ![hobbygod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hobbygod/32/120997_2.png) [@hobbygod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobbygod)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/1185 "2021-07-15T12:10:38Z")
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