# Yoyo CAD & Prototyping Adventures

**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547
**Category:** Yo-Yo Mods and Maintenance
**Created:** [August 7, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547 "2018-08-07T15:40:59Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![MarkD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/markd/32/40845_2.png) [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)
#### Post date: [April 30, 2019, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/324 "2019-04-30T19:59:20Z")

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> [@SpyseaRice](#):
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> Yeahhhh I’ll get rid of the undercut, I don’t really do thumb grinds so I can smooth it out

 ![undercut2](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/8/c/a/8ca696d39c678096c12957b9d4c1bf5d478ee736.jpeg)

Sorry, I meant this undercut here.

You could remove the undercut as suggested, or even fill out that whole section like so:

 ![undercut3](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/a/6/9/a6998532fc9de3bf4a9ad55432b25cfc029db714.jpeg)

The thumb grind lip beneath that whole section is fine, if it’s a goal to have one. Otherwise I think you’re better off removing it as well since any undercut increases the difficulty of manufacturing it on a lathe.

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### Author: ![JWaugh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jwaugh/32/42366_2.png) [@JWaugh](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JWaugh)
#### Post date: [April 30, 2019, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/325 "2019-04-30T21:16:48Z")

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That’s probably why there were no more Diptych runs?😢

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### Author: ![MarkD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/markd/32/40845_2.png) [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)
#### Post date: [April 30, 2019, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/326 "2019-04-30T21:30:43Z")

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probably not - there are plenty of successful undercut designs, but you shouldn’t add one “just because”. For each design element you should consider what its purpose is and why you are designing it a particular way. It might be aesthetics, performance, or to support a particular trick or some other element of the design.

edit: I also suspect that A-RT wanted to make new designs, like the Grail and Quail, instead

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### Author: ![SpyseaRice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/spysearice/32/82121_2.png) [@SpyseaRice](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SpyseaRice)
#### Post date: [May 1, 2019, 3:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/327 "2019-05-01T03:07:45Z")

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I made some adjustments, I “widened” the profile a bit, changed the rim to be more “chunky”, which is what I was going for on the top of the rim, and I think I fixed the issue with undercuts 😁

Specs:  
Diameter: 55.18 mm  
Width: 46.38 mm  
Weight: 65.874 g

 ![Yoyo_2019-May-01_02-59-52AM-000_CustomizedView5349665656](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/9/4/3/9430c731f57577d879f8da7212de41648863d392.jpeg) ![Yoyo_2019-May-01_03-00-57AM-000_CustomizedView3713981655](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/b/3/5/b35b2fe48d897b5b9d9e3e9981b5144d1c3d2e0c.jpeg) ![Yoyo_2019-May-01_03-01-10AM-000_CustomizedView8526505595](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/0/1/b/01bd74575184010a03cc125cd901dbd488a71928.jpeg) ![Yoyo_2019-May-01_03-01-15AM-000_CustomizedView34451631433](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/f/e/8/fe87836b34cd10d652cf97921b922500df8d0e99.jpeg)  
 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/f/f/0/ff0231aa454b59705255cc73180627b7f42e4507.png)

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### Author: ![SpyseaRice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/spysearice/32/82121_2.png) [@SpyseaRice](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SpyseaRice)
#### Post date: [May 1, 2019, 3:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/328 "2019-05-01T03:23:35Z")

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Tweaked cup a bit

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/2/5/c255a25eb4436969928e461347f6b14100774895.png)

now weighs 66.81 g

Changed nub so it’s kinda like the ones on some CLWY yoyos. 😁

 ![Yoyo_2019-May-01_03-46-43AM-000_CustomizedView4037480258](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/f/d/e/fdea626dcd9f11f23ceed16cf76ecc3a9cf1a037.jpeg)

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/0/b/9/0b9a1cc58769db5b08c0a14e7fe7a80283b04319.jpeg)  
_rare photo of the inside of the cup_ 😛

this lowered the weight by about .06 g

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### Author: ![EthanV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/4491bb/32.png) [@EthanV](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/EthanV)
#### Post date: [May 1, 2019, 5:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/329 "2019-05-01T05:14:06Z")

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I recommend thinning out the walls. That would reduce the overall weight and improve playability

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### Author: ![SpyseaRice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/spysearice/32/82121_2.png) [@SpyseaRice](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SpyseaRice)
#### Post date: [May 1, 2019, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/330 "2019-05-01T11:27:28Z")

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will do!

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### Author: ![SpyseaRice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/spysearice/32/82121_2.png) [@SpyseaRice](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SpyseaRice)
#### Post date: [May 1, 2019, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/331 "2019-05-01T12:43:15Z")

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Thinned out the walls, increased rim weight, and added a “zero-wall” near the bearing 🙂

 ![Yoyo_2019-May-01_12-37-07PM-000_CustomizedView17004464457](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/b/e/8/be8e992b8856415c28553364265b18f99beabac6.jpeg) ![Yoyo_2019-May-01_12-37-28PM-000_CustomizedView785487733](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/8/d/e/8de84c80389a52378e91748cef48726f5c9f63da.jpeg) ![Yoyo_2019-May-01_12-37-37PM-000_CustomizedView5307301616](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/f/8/5/f85ce1ff5b40281151e83fecf81afebbd7c8fe48.jpeg)  
 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/2/8/9/289e7e1406c85a1935a95a8e78923796d429f959.png)

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### Author: ![EthanV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/4491bb/32.png) [@EthanV](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/EthanV)
#### Post date: [May 2, 2019, 3:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/332 "2019-05-02T03:09:39Z")

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whats the weight now?

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### Author: ![SpyseaRice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/spysearice/32/82121_2.png) [@SpyseaRice](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SpyseaRice)
#### Post date: [May 2, 2019, 3:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/333 "2019-05-02T03:18:19Z")

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31.60 g for a half so 65.95g

i think i want to extend the ring so it’d increase the rim weight

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### Author: ![EthanV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/4491bb/32.png) [@EthanV](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/EthanV)
#### Post date: [May 2, 2019, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/334 "2019-05-02T10:40:36Z")

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I think the middle area should still be thinned out, as there is already a very reasonable amount of center weight making the mid weight not so relevant.  
Weight is already good actually, so i think you could expand the rim area to make for the reduction of weight.  
Keep note though, im talking about longer spins and rim weight. If you feel like you already like it as it is- fun and will help clean up play, well i think you should keep it as it is.

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### Author: ![SpyseaRice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/spysearice/32/82121_2.png) [@SpyseaRice](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SpyseaRice)
#### Post date: [May 2, 2019, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/335 "2019-05-02T11:48:52Z")

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thanks 😀

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### Author: ![SpyseaRice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/spysearice/32/82121_2.png) [@SpyseaRice](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SpyseaRice)
#### Post date: [May 2, 2019, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/336 "2019-05-02T12:54:17Z")

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I extended the rims and thinned out the walls,

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/3/7/7/3770e3defb770c9e7621f757c066c0d62a288722.png)

Each half weighs 31.776 g so about 66.2 g

 ![Yoyo_2019-May-02_12-39-04PM-000_CustomizedView2144940196_png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/f/8/cf8d2d087f6547d68202393d8a516ae07393e9fc.jpeg)

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 ![Yoyo_2019-May-02_12-39-41PM-000_CustomizedView27508743241](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/5/a/c5a4eb937d211be7218a72c15ba35b5c4e68fdfd.jpeg)

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 ![Yoyo_2019-May-02_12-40-25PM-000_CustomizedView7210475697](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/3/9/8/3987ad08353f0758d1a3abbcca3bbc9db7d9378d.jpeg)

😃

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### Author: ![RyoCanCan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ryocancan/32/163437_2.png) [@RyoCanCan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/RyoCanCan)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2019, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/337 "2019-05-06T14:41:34Z")

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Any love for superwides?  
That round cup though.

 ![Wide_2019-May-01_05-35-44PM-000_CustomizedView54020436152](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/5/1/c516a5da7e6c64d105e35c2085722e939530d6d7.jpeg) ![Wide%20boi%20dimens](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/e/a/3/ea3e5ae4060380a5a11d6061e2ed2ac2bb4b4e31.png)

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### Author: ![SpyseaRice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/spysearice/32/82121_2.png) [@SpyseaRice](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SpyseaRice)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2019, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/338 "2019-05-06T21:44:08Z")

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Did another one, I might even like this more than my other one 🙂

 ![2839c001-0b7e-47e6-a9e7-0e8cbeb91deb](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/d/a/2/da2d4e5ef33501fe221b94c79a502dab9e4cef36.jpeg) ![Yoyo_2_2019-May-06_09-37-37PM-000_CustomizedView23437943534](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/a/0/9/a099eb37a865c7deddf9fc983a89a3436efba682.jpeg)

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### Author: ![MarkD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/markd/32/40845_2.png) [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2019, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/339 "2019-05-06T22:54:15Z")

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I like that better, too! Getting some Abduction vibes from the cup.

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### Author: ![SpyseaRice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/spysearice/32/82121_2.png) [@SpyseaRice](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SpyseaRice)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2019, 11:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/340 "2019-05-06T23:17:58Z")

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If you check out the reCognition, it’ll look a lot more like that imo

Don’t actually remember throwing the Abduction, I know I tried it at some point. I’ll probably get a chance at the upcoming Atlanta meet up tho 😛

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#### Post date: [May 6, 2019, 11:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/341 "2019-05-06T23:43:56Z")

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That thing might do a 10 minute finger spin!

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### Author: ![RyoCanCan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ryocancan/32/163437_2.png) [@RyoCanCan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/RyoCanCan)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2019, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/342 "2019-05-07T05:57:14Z")

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It might. I wanna get some made, or make a few at some point. Round cups for the win.

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### Author: ![MarkD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/markd/32/40845_2.png) [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2019, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yoyo-cad-prototyping-adventures/291547/343 "2019-05-07T13:06:34Z")

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> [@RyoCanCan](#):
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> ![Wide boi dimens.PNG](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/e/a/3/ea3e5ae4060380a5a11d6061e2ed2ac2bb4b4e31.png)

Do you have a guide or something for how you made this? It looks really cool!

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