# Xlr8 surge alpha crash or speedaholic **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [October 11, 2013, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/xlr8-surge-alpha-crash-or-speedaholic/60064 "2013-10-11T18:33:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jjs77as6533](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/53a042/32.png) [@jjs77as6533](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jjs77as6533)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/xlr8-surge-alpha-crash-or-speedaholic/60064/1 "2013-10-11T18:33:42Z")
Hey everyone. I am looking for a yoyo that I could possibly get two or three of. Preferences: Horizontal capable Possibly grind capable Can handle a beating Finger spins (maybe) can go fast without really needing to be pushed ---
**Author:** ![PAPO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/papo/32/1415_2.png) [@PAPO](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PAPO)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/xlr8-surge-alpha-crash-or-speedaholic/60064/2 "2013-10-11T19:38:00Z")
the speedaholic really struggles with finger spins, they can be done but they must be brief. and I know nothing about horizontal, but it should meet all your criteria, and it’s so cheap you could have money left over for something else too :wink: ---
**Author:** ![jjs77as6533](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/53a042/32.png) [@jjs77as6533](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jjs77as6533)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/xlr8-surge-alpha-crash-or-speedaholic/60064/3 "2013-10-12T16:05:47Z")
I think I narrowed it down to getting a second severe, or two zxlr8s. Thoughts? Also, how is the xlr8 with vibe compared to the severe? ---
**Author:** ![Poupou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@Poupou](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Poupou)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/xlr8-surge-alpha-crash-or-speedaholic/60064/4 "2013-10-12T16:09:52Z")
Thumb grind aren’t possible with a surge and grind are not very good cause its to responsive but it’s a good throw and it has taken me from intermediate to advance part 2 but I didn’t try the other ones. ---
**Author:** ![Casey888](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Casey888](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Casey888)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/xlr8-surge-alpha-crash-or-speedaholic/60064/5 "2013-10-12T18:02:06Z")
Honestly it sounds to me like you want a rally. It has everything you want. ---
**Author:** ![Snafu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/snafu/32/1399_2.png) [@Snafu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Snafu)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/xlr8-surge-alpha-crash-or-speedaholic/60064/6 "2013-10-12T18:03:05Z")
> [@jjs77as6533](#): > > I think I narrowed it down to getting a second severe, or two zxlr8s. Thoughts? Also, how is the xlr8 with vibe compared to the severe? I like my XLR8 better then the severe and feel that it plays overall better. Ifyou don’t like heavy yoyos the XLR8 could be an issue I don’t find it to be an issue and I like the added heft to it. I just know some disagree with me in that. Happy hunting and I hope you find something you’re extremely happy with ! ---
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2013, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/xlr8-surge-alpha-crash-or-speedaholic/60064/7 "2013-10-13T22:31:21Z")
> [@kclejeune](#): > > Honestly it sounds to me like you want a rally. It has everything you want. YES. BEST PLASTIC EVER. IT PLAYS LIKE A METAL, FOR REALS DOH. It’s really stable, a little on the fast side, can do all types of grinds, can fingerspin, pretty durable, and it’s a monster at horizontal. ---
**Author:** ![Casey888](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Casey888](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Casey888)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2013, 2:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/xlr8-surge-alpha-crash-or-speedaholic/60064/8 "2013-10-14T02:42:05Z")
> [@andy569](#): > > YES. BEST PLASTIC EVER. IT PLAYS LIKE A METAL, FOR REALS DOH. > > It’s really stable, a little on the fast side, can do all types of grinds, can fingerspin, pretty durable, and it’s a monster at horizontal. Yeah pretty much this. I have no doubt it could be used to win worlds or nationals if someone good used it. ---
**Author:** ![olldasmall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3d9bf3/32.png) [@olldasmall](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/olldasmall)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2013, 12:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/xlr8-surge-alpha-crash-or-speedaholic/60064/9 "2013-10-16T00:39:31Z")
xlr8s are amazing!! get one! ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2013, 12:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/xlr8-surge-alpha-crash-or-speedaholic/60064/10 "2013-10-16T00:48:30Z")
> [@jjs77as6533](#): > > I think I narrowed it down to getting a second severe, or two zxlr8s. Thoughts? Also, how is the xlr8 with vibe compared to the severe? I think the Severe has less vibe than the XLR8, but I didn’t care for the Severe and I’m perfectly fine with the typical YYJ vibe on my XLR8. ---
**Author:** ![jjs77as6533](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/53a042/32.png) [@jjs77as6533](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jjs77as6533)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2013, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/xlr8-surge-alpha-crash-or-speedaholic/60064/11 "2013-10-16T00:52:29Z")
Thanks for all of the responses. I think that I’m gonna go with a second strix. ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2013, 2:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/xlr8-surge-alpha-crash-or-speedaholic/60064/12 "2013-10-16T02:16:21Z")
> [@jjs77as6533](#): > > Thanks for all of the responses. I think that I’m gonna go with a second strix. Good choice. Your initial choices were all unsuitable for your requests. ---
**Author:** ![jjs77as6533](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/53a042/32.png) [@jjs77as6533](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jjs77as6533)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2013, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/xlr8-surge-alpha-crash-or-speedaholic/60064/13 "2013-10-18T14:41:26Z")
I ended up ordering two xlr8s