# X convict or dark magic

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**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [August 24, 2010, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/x-convict-or-dark-magic/18321 "2010-08-24T16:27:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![hayabusa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f17d59/32.png) [@hayabusa](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hayabusa)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/x-convict-or-dark-magic/18321/1 "2010-08-24T16:27:45Z")

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should i get an x con or dm? i have 50 bucks

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**Author:** ![VincentYoyoKid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/vincentyoyokid/32/643_2.png) [@VincentYoyoKid](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/VincentYoyoKid)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/x-convict-or-dark-magic/18321/2 "2010-08-24T16:30:13Z")

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Dark Magic.

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**Author:** ![maxd11yoyo-e](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/maxd11yoyo-e/32/466_2.png) [@maxd11yoyo-e](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/maxd11yoyo-e)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/x-convict-or-dark-magic/18321/3 "2010-08-24T16:33:02Z")

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well most people would recommend the protostar to you but I say you should get the DM. A lot of people don’t like it but I think it is just about perfect. You should get a DM2 because they are newer and I guess better. I personally like the DM because of the feel from the wight distribution and the irg.  
It also has strong fast sleepers and grinds well.

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**Author:** ![psin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/psin/32/397_2.png) [@psin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/psin)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/x-convict-or-dark-magic/18321/4 "2010-08-24T16:47:55Z")

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Out of the 2, I preferred the X-Convict, simply because it was smaller and easier to hold.  
Also I don’t like starburst so the hybrid on my DM didn’t impress me much.

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**Author:** ![ledbetter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@ledbetter](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ledbetter)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/x-convict-or-dark-magic/18321/5 "2010-08-24T17:02:30Z")

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I vote DM II. I like my original DM and some of the changes they made for the DM II should make it even better.

The response is now recessed silicone pads.  
There is a new axle system that adds stability.  
It is a few grams lighter.

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**Author:** ![XminusmikeX](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/xminusmikex/32/294_2.png) [@XminusmikeX](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/XminusmikeX)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/x-convict-or-dark-magic/18321/6 "2010-08-24T18:42:11Z")

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I have both the DMv1 and the X-con and they are both awesome so you might want to flip a coin on this one.

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**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/x-convict-or-dark-magic/18321/7 "2010-08-24T23:39:58Z")

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Don’t have a DM so I can’t judge on that…

The X-con is really nice, I like it muchly. But it requires a good throw. A little off and it will tilt madly. It does not recover well from a bad throw. That said, it really moves through tricks well if your throw is down good. It is stable, meaning it will stay in whatever mode you throw it. In a good smooth throw, it will remain that way. If you tip it on a throw, it will stay that way too.

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**Author:** ![DG1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dg1/32/606_2.png) [@DG1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DG1)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2010, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/x-convict-or-dark-magic/18321/8 "2010-08-25T01:07:57Z")

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Get the Dingo. It’s a metal, and it’s only $50.

Or the Summer Special DV888, if any are left.

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**Author:** ![Preinfalk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/preinfalk/32/551_2.png) [@Preinfalk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Preinfalk)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2010, 1:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/x-convict-or-dark-magic/18321/9 "2010-08-25T01:29:24Z")

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> [@DG1](#):
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> Or the Summer Special DV888, if any are left.

I looked, there are no more :(. If you decide on an x-con, I am selling a rare one. check the B/S/T)

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**Author:** ![Hardcore\_Max1986](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hardcore_max1986/32/288_2.png) [@Hardcore\_Max1986](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hardcore_Max1986)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2010, 4:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/x-convict-or-dark-magic/18321/10 "2010-08-25T04:20:59Z")

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> [@XminusmikeX](#):
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> I have both the DMv1 and the X-con and they are both awesome so you might want to flip a coin on this one.

I agree here, if you want a smaller throw go with the x convict or if you prefer a larger throw go with the DM

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**Author:** ![crazyoyow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@crazyoyow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/crazyoyow)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2010, 4:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/x-convict-or-dark-magic/18321/11 "2010-08-25T04:28:21Z")

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I would wait for the hitman pro

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**Author:** ![j\_lowell9](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/j_lowell9/32/358_2.png) [@j\_lowell9](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/j_lowell9)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2010, 2:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/x-convict-or-dark-magic/18321/12 "2010-08-27T02:18:59Z")

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I would get the revolution or protostar, maybe the dm2
