# X-convict advice

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**Category:** Yo-Yo Mods and Maintenance\
**Created:** [June 4, 2010, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/x-convict-advice/15188 "2010-06-04T07:20:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![memorex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/memorex/32/548_2.png) [@memorex](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/memorex)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2010, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/x-convict-advice/15188/1 "2010-06-04T07:20:58Z")

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So yesterday my X-convict arrived. It’s a very nice yoyo, although the double o-ring response system is a bit responsive and when there are multiple layers of string inside the o-rings really slow down the yoyo a lot… Should i do something about it, or will the o-rings break in by using them ??  
I already added 1 red shim on both sides of the bearing…

I think my options are :

1. do nothing (maybe use a bit of thin lube on the bearing, although it spins rather good) and break in the response system
2. shave the O-rings (or maybe shave 1 of the 2 ???)
3. just remove one of the O-rings (would this work?)
4. sillicone the groove (skeptical about this one, i don’t have any sillicon and i don’t wanna ruin my yoyo)

Any advice would be greatly appreciated 🙂

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**Author:** ![Big\_Andrew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/big_andrew/32/384_2.png) [@Big\_Andrew](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Big_Andrew)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2010, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/x-convict-advice/15188/2 "2010-06-04T09:56:24Z")

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schmove the orings…that is what i did to my x-convict to be unresponsive;)

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**Author:** ![Yummy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yummy/32/14065_2.png) [@Yummy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yummy)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2010, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/x-convict-advice/15188/3 "2010-06-04T14:35:42Z")

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Shaving the o-rings and [schmooving](http://yoyowiki.org/wiki/Schmoove_Rings) are two very different things, Andrew.

memorex, breaking everything in will help, shaving the o-rings will help more, and siliconing the yo-yo will help the most.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_rocks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@Johnny\_rocks](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Johnny_rocks)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2010, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/x-convict-advice/15188/4 "2010-06-04T17:15:14Z")

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or you could just buy some shims… two thick shims will make it dead unresponsive.

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**Author:** ![AwEsOmEnEsS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f6c823/32.png) [@AwEsOmEnEsS](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AwEsOmEnEsS)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2010, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/x-convict-advice/15188/5 "2010-06-04T20:12:48Z")

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> [@memorex](#):
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> So yesterday my X-convict arrived. It’s a very nice yoyo, although the double o-ring response system is a bit responsive and when there are multiple layers of string inside the o-rings really slow down the yoyo a lot… Should i do something about it, or will the o-rings break in by using them ??  
> I already added 1 red shim on both sides of the bearing…
> 
> I think my options are :
> 
> 1. do nothing (maybe use a bit of thin lube on the bearing, although it spins rather good) and break in the response system
> 2. shave the O-rings (or maybe shave 1 of the 2 ???)
> 3. just remove one of the O-rings (would this work?)
> 4. sillicone the groove (skeptical about this one, i don’t have any sillicon and i don’t wanna ruin my yoyo)
> 
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated 🙂

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**Author:** ![I6ify](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/i6ify/32/531_2.png) [@I6ify](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/I6ify)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2010, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/x-convict-advice/15188/6 "2010-06-04T20:21:10Z")

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My advice would be shave it or sillicone it, both will help significantly

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**Author:** ![Kristiawan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kristiawan/32/366_2.png) [@Kristiawan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Kristiawan)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2010, 2:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/x-convict-advice/15188/7 "2010-06-05T02:24:52Z")

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I add 2 red shim and silicone the response in my x-convict.  
Work great

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**Author:** ![king825](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/king825/32/347_2.png) [@king825](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/king825)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2010, 2:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/x-convict-advice/15188/8 "2010-06-05T02:29:50Z")

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I hate O rings. Just silicone it, you’ll need to probably learn how eventually.

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**Author:** ![catorameus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/catorameus/32/175_2.png) [@catorameus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/catorameus)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2010, 2:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/x-convict-advice/15188/9 "2010-06-05T02:33:25Z")

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Shaving the O-rings → fast solution  
Breaking in everything else → takes longer but in my opinion better because it’s safer than doing a one-shot irreversible mod

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**Author:** ![memorex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/memorex/32/548_2.png) [@memorex](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/memorex)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2010, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/x-convict-advice/15188/10 "2010-06-05T08:05:52Z")

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> [@JayVee](#):
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> Shaving the O-rings → fast solution  
> Breaking in everything else → takes longer but in my opinion better because it’s safer than doing a one-shot irreversible mod

So if I shave the O-rings, and it goes wrong, i could get some new o-rings somewhere and replace them right?

Anyways, I think i’ll play with it for at least a week, see how it plays then, cause after a couple of hours of play, it’s already a bit less grabby 🙂

Also, like i said i’ve use one red shim on either side of the bearing. Kristiawan said he has 2 shims in it, doe you mean 2 shims on each side of the bearing, making it 4 in total? Would this make the gap too wide and the string to get caught between the yoyo and the bearing?..

Thanks for the advice everybody !

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**Author:** ![Big\_Andrew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/big_andrew/32/384_2.png) [@Big\_Andrew](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Big_Andrew)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2010, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/x-convict-advice/15188/11 "2010-06-05T08:10:49Z")

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> [@Yummy](#):
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> Shaving the o-rings and [schmooving](http://yoyowiki.org/wiki/Schmoove_Rings) are two very different things, Andrew.
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> memorex, breaking everything in will help, shaving the o-rings will help more, and siliconing the yo-yo will help the most.

shave it is what i wanted to say…but i don’t speak english to well…

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**Author:** ![Kristiawan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kristiawan/32/366_2.png) [@Kristiawan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Kristiawan)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2010, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/x-convict-advice/15188/12 "2010-06-05T10:19:57Z")

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I use 2 just the same way you put it on yours (one on each side of the bearing)  
It work best this way imo.  
O-ring work great after they brak in, the only thing i don’t like about them is they stick out of the flush, and somewhat narrowing the gap a little bit.

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**Author:** ![yoyoninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e95f7d/32.png) [@yoyoninja](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoninja)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/x-convict-advice/15188/13 "2010-06-06T17:15:09Z")

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another thing u could do is buy the silicone pads from yyj for $3 and put them in to replace the o-rings. If u dont like it u can put in the o-rings back but they should fit anyways.
