# Wth happened to horror
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**Created:** [December 29, 2024, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wth-happened-to-horror/416048 "2024-12-29T15:08:09Z")
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### Author:  [@Splizacular](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Splizacular)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2024, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wth-happened-to-horror/416048/1 "2024-12-29T15:08:09Z")
title. like the genre is just aweful these days. everything has to either be so over the top you start thinking maybe a comedy was mislabeled as a horror, or its trying to be…i dunno, artsy? and jump scares are lame af. a 5 yo can startle someone. I’m not saying there haven’t been good ones at all lately, but they’re so few and far between i just can’t anymore and horror has always been my fav genre, ever since i used to sneak to the top of the stairs and lay down to watch whatever horror movie the old man was up late watching. one of the horror entries i have enjoyed somewhat recently was the Fear Street trilogy that hit netflix couple years ago. the third one admittedly had that really slow flashback part, but otherwise i enjoyed the story and they honestly felt like homages to the slasher flicks of the 80s and 90s
anyway /rantoff just needed to get that off my chest lol
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### Author:  [@Sven](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Sven)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2024, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wth-happened-to-horror/416048/2 "2024-12-29T15:20:48Z")
Good point. I don’t want to open this subject too much, but is this not an issue with big movie production in general? I think a lot of these problems come from cowerdly investors.
And I also remeber a point from the film class I had in my studies, in which the teacher mentioned, that horror movies were a way into the movie market for outsider filmmakers. Like Rob Zombie, David Cronenberg or the peeps from Blair Witch, which also had to chose their, now iconic, handheld POV footage for cost reasons.
But there are probably a lot of reasons that all play into each other.
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### Author:  [@Splizacular](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Splizacular)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2024, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wth-happened-to-horror/416048/3 "2024-12-29T15:24:57Z")
> [@Sven](#):
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> but is this not an issue with big movie production in general
i definitely think this is a huge part of it! and i get it, money will always be a huge factor for better or worse. and honestly i don’t even know what I’d do differently to “fix” it. i just know it’s been a long time since I’ve made it past the first 20 min of a horror film
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### Author:  [@Hunto47](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hunto47)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2024, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wth-happened-to-horror/416048/4 "2024-12-29T15:25:18Z")
Smile 2 was insanely scary to me. My gf is a huge horror fan and loved it. It was also just a phenomenally acted and shot movie. Definitely recommend giving it a look.
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### Author:  [@Splizacular](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Splizacular)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2024, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wth-happened-to-horror/416048/5 "2024-12-29T15:26:01Z")
that’s one i haven’t checked yet, I’ll take a look. i have heard good things about it
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### Author:  [@Hunto47](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hunto47)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2024, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wth-happened-to-horror/416048/6 "2024-12-29T15:27:32Z")
Additionally, while it wasn’t insanely scary, Nosferatu had some really good atmosphere and cinematography that just brought in a real nice creepy unsettling feeling for the movie.
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### Author:  [@JSERR](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JSERR)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2024, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wth-happened-to-horror/416048/7 "2024-12-29T15:31:54Z")
Nosferatu is right up my alley. I hope our theatre gets it. I prefer a good atmosphere and something that sticks with you. A bunch of jump scares and loud sounds never stick with you. That’s why I gravitate towards Eggers and Aster movies for modern horror. You get a few good scares, but it’s the theme and the atmosphere that linger after the credits roll, making you feel that much more uncomfortable.
There’s lots of indie gems too, but they’re a little hard to sift through and they just can’t compete on a stage where they’re not getting the same marketing as these star studded features now. It’s a shame.
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### Author:  [@kretzschmar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kretzschmar)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2024, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wth-happened-to-horror/416048/8 "2024-12-29T15:33:20Z")
I loved the first Smile movie. Main reason I loved it, and this will sound terrible, is because I’ve struggled with hardcore mental health issues my whole life, and it’s just been nearly impossible to explain my experiences in a way that anyone can truly understand the depths of insanity
The main character achieves showing it in a way that just hits the nail on the head for me. I cried with joy, knowing that it really enveloped some key parts of the madness that I could never get across, and as far as horror, it puts them in that mindset while watching which is terrifying and accomplished what I feel a really good horror movie should
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### Author:  [@Sven](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Sven)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2024, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wth-happened-to-horror/416048/9 "2024-12-29T15:35:39Z")
… or is the Werner Herzog Version with Klaus Kinski the better movie?
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### Author:  [@Sven](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Sven)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2024, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wth-happened-to-horror/416048/10 "2024-12-29T15:39:45Z")
And I aslo think movies today have way too long runtimes. No wonder they can’t hold the tension arc for 2h30min. Most movies and stories get better when they are told in a shorter frame. It forces the director to chose a few important way points to empathize, which sticks better with an audience.
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### Author:  [@Isaac](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Isaac)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2024, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wth-happened-to-horror/416048/11 "2024-12-29T15:43:40Z")
> [@Splizacular](#):
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> everything has to either be so over the top you start thinking maybe a comedy was mislabeled as a horror, or its trying to be…i dunno, artsy
Horror has always had movies that are over the top
Horror has always had movies that are campy
Horror has always had movies with an artistic vision and something to say which you seem to pejoratively label as “artsy”
> [@Splizacular](#):
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> felt like homages to the slasher flicks of the 80s and 90s
80s/90s slashers in particular are widely over the top and campy so I really don’t know what your point is.
If anything we’ve had lots of fantastic horror movies released over the last several years.
Off the top of my head:
- The Substance
- Hereditary
- Midsommar
- The Witch
- The Lighthouse
- Mandy
- Nosferatu (2024)
- Talk to Me
- Smile
- Alien: Romulus
- Raw
- Nope
- Get Out
- Us
- Saint Maud
- Happy Death Day
- Freaky
etc.
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### Author:  [@Splizacular](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Splizacular)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2024, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wth-happened-to-horror/416048/12 "2024-12-29T15:50:23Z")
i think this is true sometimes. i think certain stories benefit from expansive story telling, but horror is an odd genre for that, i agree
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### Author:  [@Sven](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Sven)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2024, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wth-happened-to-horror/416048/13 "2024-12-29T15:54:01Z")
While talking about Witches:
I search for a movie, in which a group of balkan soldiers have to take position on top of a hill, in a run down base and discover a room, in which a “witch” is walled up in and a beheaded rooster is hung from the ceiling. Ca. made in the 2010’s.
Maybe someone nows what movie I am talking about?
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### Author:  [@Splizacular](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Splizacular)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2024, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wth-happened-to-horror/416048/14 "2024-12-29T16:05:13Z")
> [@Isaac](#):
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> Horror has always had movies that are over the top
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> Horror has always had movies that are campy
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> Horror has always had movies with an artistic vision and something to say which you seem to pejoratively label as “artsy”
never claimed the contrary
> [@Isaac](#):
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> 80s/90s slashers in particular are widely over the top and campy
sure are! they also weren’t the only horror movies of the era. that comment was specific to the fear street movies i referenced. i also never claimed i had no room for campy or over the top. what DID say was that EVERYTHING felt that way. and even those fear street movies were enjoyable but certainly not scary impo
> [@Isaac](#):
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> If anything we’ve had lots of fantastic horror movies released over the last several years
i disagree, but that’s ok that you like what you like. this is totally subjective. I’m happy that you’ve found films lately in the genre that you’ve enjoyed. i haven’t.
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### Author:  [@Isaac](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Isaac)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2024, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wth-happened-to-horror/416048/15 "2024-12-29T16:12:07Z")
> [@Splizacular](#):
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> i disagree,
okay, which recent movies have you seen that you disliked and what did you dislike about them?
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### Author:  [@Splizacular](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Splizacular)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2024, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wth-happened-to-horror/416048/16 "2024-12-29T16:31:55Z")
dude I’m not doing this with you. there’s enough fighting going on around here. i hear you, i do. you don’t agree with me. don’t try to turn this into something where you can “prove me wrong”. i just don’t have the energy. again I’m glad you’ve enjoyed what you’ve enjoyed, i truly am ✌
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### Author:  [@Isaac](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Isaac)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2024, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wth-happened-to-horror/416048/17 "2024-12-29T16:49:54Z")
dude it’s a discussion… not every disagreement is a gd fight. i really like film so of course i want to talk about it.
I’m simply trying to figure out what you’ve seen that you disliked and what you didn’t like about them. because you don’t say anything about that just that the genre is “awful” while listing qualities that have existed in the genre since it’s inception.
maybe let’s switch the opposite side then and focus on positives,
what are the older horror movies you _do_ enjoy and what do you enjoy about them?
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### Author:  [@Splizacular](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Splizacular)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2024, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wth-happened-to-horror/416048/18 "2024-12-29T17:39:25Z")
> [@Isaac](#):
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> dude it’s a discussion… not every disagreement is a gd fight
your right it isn’t, but starting off putting someone in a position to defend themselves feels like the beginnings of an argument
> [@Isaac](#):
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> maybe let’s switch the opposite side then and focus on positives
this is a much better direction thank you
lets see…i like old slashers, but like originals where they were more focused on setting up a terrifying figure. sequels are where it felt like they started pushing the over the top campiness. i still liked and still watch them, i just know what I’m getting and i don’t watch those for the scares. i love that the original friday the thirteenth wasnt even about jason and the way it was all revealed. psychological thrillers, while not horror always get me as real things like madness and other humans scare me way more than ghosts and monsters. i put event horizon in this category. the early 2000s japanese remakes were creepy as hell but I’m not entirely sure why specifically they creeped me out. I’m referring to like the ring and the grudge.
like i said I’m not even sure what id do differently, i just keep sitting down to movies that i don’t finish. you’re right that the themes i mentioned aren’t new, and maybe that’s it. maybe im just bored with it or even desensitized
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### Author:  [@ChrisFrancz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ChrisFrancz)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2024, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wth-happened-to-horror/416048/19 "2024-12-29T17:52:40Z")
The Shining (1980) is still my favorite horror movie.
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### Author:  [@Ironical\_Monocle1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Ironical_Monocle1)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2024, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/wth-happened-to-horror/416048/20 "2024-12-29T18:02:07Z")
The original Texas Chainsaw Massacre FTW!
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