# Would you rather have a CiTizen or a Titanium Dream?
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/would-you-rather-have-a-citizen-or-a-titanium-dream/76228
**Category:** General Yo-Yo
**Created:** [August 7, 2015, 3:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/would-you-rather-have-a-citizen-or-a-titanium-dream/76228 "2015-08-07T03:08:00Z")
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### Author:  [@H0N3YB4DG3RR4GE](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/H0N3YB4DG3RR4GE)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2015, 3:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/would-you-rather-have-a-citizen-or-a-titanium-dream/76228/1 "2015-08-07T03:08:00Z")
Just curious about everyone’s thoughts 🙂
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### Author:  [@wishiwasayoyoexpert](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/wishiwasayoyoexpert)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2015, 3:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/would-you-rather-have-a-citizen-or-a-titanium-dream/76228/2 "2015-08-07T03:21:42Z")
CiTIzen. Got to try one out at BAC and it was super epic. I like my Ti dream, but I just liked the feel of the citizen more.
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### Author:  [@JohnnyJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnnyJ)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2015, 3:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/would-you-rather-have-a-citizen-or-a-titanium-dream/76228/3 "2015-08-07T03:26:39Z")
Citizen for sure.
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### Author:  [@GrandMaster](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GrandMaster)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2015, 3:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/would-you-rather-have-a-citizen-or-a-titanium-dream/76228/4 "2015-08-07T03:48:50Z")
Personally, I like the dream. Solid, fast, agile, long spinning. I fell like the citizen will be something new for me to experience. I would have both…
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### Author:  [@much.geek](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/much.geek)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2015, 3:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/would-you-rather-have-a-citizen-or-a-titanium-dream/76228/5 "2015-08-07T03:51:57Z")
CiTizen. Tried both and I preferred the CiTizen far more.
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### Author:  [@Tolkienfan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Tolkienfan)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2015, 3:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/would-you-rather-have-a-citizen-or-a-titanium-dream/76228/6 "2015-08-07T03:58:44Z")
Tried both and Definitely liked the Citizen more. I feel like the Ti Dream is about the level of a Draupnir, while the citizen easily performs $100 better than a Draupnir. I use the Draupnir as a comparison because it is one of my favorite yoyos of all time and to top it is a real feat. Just my opinions though
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### Author:  [@Nathan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nathan)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2015, 4:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/would-you-rather-have-a-citizen-or-a-titanium-dream/76228/7 "2015-08-07T04:14:08Z")
Both?
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### Author:  [@Marksman](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Marksman)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2015, 4:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/would-you-rather-have-a-citizen-or-a-titanium-dream/76228/8 "2015-08-07T04:26:23Z")
I have the Ti Dream and can say it’s a beast. It zips along fast through tricks…light feeling…super stable and comes back hard. I would like to try the citizen too. I find myself lazily throwing my break aways when I practice with it…if you throw hard and bind too quick it feels like it could almost chop through your finger with the string.
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### Author:  [@Tolkienfan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Tolkienfan)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2015, 4:32am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/would-you-rather-have-a-citizen-or-a-titanium-dream/76228/9 "2015-08-07T04:32:22Z")
> [@Marksman](#):
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> I have the Ti Dream and can say it’s a beast. It zips along fast through tricks…light feeling…super stable and comes back hard.
This is really how the Citizen felt, but magnified! It also has more of a unique feel to it and while the Ti Dream is great, I just didn’t really love the feel of it. The Citizen felt very… special. Without looking or even feeling the surface of the yoyo, you can definitely feel the titanium.
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### Author:  [@doug77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/doug77)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2015, 5:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/would-you-rather-have-a-citizen-or-a-titanium-dream/76228/10 "2015-08-07T05:01:15Z")
I would rather have a Titanium Dream because I bought the Titanium Dream before OD announced the Citizen, so I have to justify my purchase and convince myself that the Dream plays better, because I don’t have the money to purchase the Citizen too, and if I did purchase it, my wife will kill me (metaphorically speaking–actually maybe not)
… seriously though, the Dream is a beast and plays awesome, and if the Citizen tops it, then OD will have created perhaps the greatest throw ever made.
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### Author:  [@Tolkienfan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Tolkienfan)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2015, 5:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/would-you-rather-have-a-citizen-or-a-titanium-dream/76228/11 "2015-08-07T05:07:43Z")
> [@doug77](#):
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> seriously though, the Dream is a beast and plays awesome, and if the Citizen tops it, then OD will have created perhaps the greatest throw ever made.
It does top it and, (IMO), they did make the best throw ever made. (At least until a TI Bi-metal comes out)
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### Author:  [@Marksman](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Marksman)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2015, 5:17am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/would-you-rather-have-a-citizen-or-a-titanium-dream/76228/12 "2015-08-07T05:17:39Z")
When I first got my Ti Dream I thought the 5mm gap was too wide. See…I could feel my string slipping on my breakaway thus losing power. However… . I put some IR pads in it and hello…no slipping and power for days. I have grown to rather enjoy that 5mm gap…you can get a bunch of wraps in there while doing tricks and she just keeps on going like the energizer bunny. If I didn’t already have the dream I might would go for the citizen. Honestly…you couldn’t go wrong with either. I was fortunate enough to crowd fund the my Dream so I got a really good deal on it. No regrets. The Citizen is more limited tho…so may be more highly sought after later on.
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### Author:  [@Marksman](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Marksman)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2015, 5:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/would-you-rather-have-a-citizen-or-a-titanium-dream/76228/13 "2015-08-07T05:19:39Z")
> [@Tolkienfan](#):
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> It does top it and, (IMO), they did make the best throw ever made. (At least until a TI Bi-metal comes out)
You read my mind. A Titanium throw with tungsten weight rings would be the ultimate. Tungsten is super hard… .and dense and heavy. Would be truly epic…and very expensive.
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### Author:  [@Tolkienfan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Tolkienfan)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2015, 5:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/would-you-rather-have-a-citizen-or-a-titanium-dream/76228/14 "2015-08-07T05:22:24Z")
> [@Marksman](#):
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> If I didn’t already have the dream I might would go for the citizen. Honestly…you couldn’t go wrong with either. I was fortunate enough to crowd fund the my Dream so I got a really good deal on it. No regrets. The Citizen is more limited tho…so may be more highly sought after later on.
Yeah. Even if I had the option to get the Ti Dream package with the Aluminum Dream and Big Dream for $200, I would still go for the Citizen at $300. It’s just that much better. Not that the Ti Dream is in any way bad, like I said it easily competes with the Draupnir.
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### Author:  [@Tolkienfan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Tolkienfan)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2015, 5:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/would-you-rather-have-a-citizen-or-a-titanium-dream/76228/15 "2015-08-07T05:24:15Z")
> [@Marksman](#):
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> You read my mind. A Titanium throw with tungsten weight rings would be the ultimate. Tungsten is super hard… .and dense and heavy. Would be truly epic…and very expensive.
Yeah! that would be awesome. Have you heard about the anglam TISS. I don’t know much about it but I guess they are planning on making it. It sounds like a beast!
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### Author:  [@Marksman](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Marksman)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2015, 5:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/would-you-rather-have-a-citizen-or-a-titanium-dream/76228/16 "2015-08-07T05:28:53Z")
> [@Tolkienfan](#):
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> Yeah! that would be awesome. Have you heard about the anglam TISS. I don’t know much about it but I guess they are planning on making it. It sounds like a beast!
I just heard about it…just now from you. Sent you a thanks. I will research this…and I will get on for sure.
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### Author:  [@Tolkienfan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Tolkienfan)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2015, 5:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/would-you-rather-have-a-citizen-or-a-titanium-dream/76228/17 "2015-08-07T05:33:40Z")
I heard that people are prepared for it to be well over Dazzler price, but I know nothing for sure.
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### Author:  [@Marksman](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Marksman)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2015, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/would-you-rather-have-a-citizen-or-a-titanium-dream/76228/18 "2015-08-07T05:37:27Z")
> [@Tolkienfan](#):
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> I heard that people are prepared for it to be well over Dazzler price, but I know nothing for sure.
It’s gunna hurt for sure. We shall see hopefully.
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### Author:  [@Totalartist](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Totalartist)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2015, 7:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/would-you-rather-have-a-citizen-or-a-titanium-dream/76228/19 "2015-08-07T07:07:16Z")
For me, YoyoFactory Titanium Dream. I bought that one three times over, and money well spent too. I love the specs on it, the width, so much power, and that awesome brushed finish in your hand.
[https://farm1.staticflickr.com/389/19209622791\_d0d74e5d93\_z.jpg](https://flic.kr/p/vgukAX)[Dreambrushed](https://flic.kr/p/vgukAX) by [Total Artist](https://www.flickr.com/photos/totalartist/), on Flickr
[https://farm1.staticflickr.com/329/19209630491\_13d5158eaf\_z.jpg](https://flic.kr/p/vgunTH)[Dreamblue](https://flic.kr/p/vgunTH) by [Total Artist](https://www.flickr.com/photos/totalartist/), on Flickr
[https://farm1.staticflickr.com/526/19200119182\_c15e3fea31\_z.jpg](https://flic.kr/p/vfDCvC)[Dreamblueb](https://flic.kr/p/vfDCvC) by [Total Artist](https://www.flickr.com/photos/totalartist/), on Flickr
[https://farm1.staticflickr.com/262/19018388298\_53bf46a1a7\_z.jpg](https://flic.kr/p/uYAdfw)[Dreams4](https://flic.kr/p/uYAdfw) by [Total Artist](https://www.flickr.com/photos/totalartist/), on Flickr
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### Author:  [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2015, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/would-you-rather-have-a-citizen-or-a-titanium-dream/76228/20 "2015-08-07T07:10:44Z")
The thing with the Dream is, it’s not meant to be unique. It’s meant to be a 100% competition ready YoYo. And in my opinion, it trumps the Draupnir in performance. The CiTizen I feel was made with competition and enjoyment in mind. Not to diss One Drop or anything, but the Dream just seems like a better weapon choice to use if you are going to compete. The CiTizen may be a more enjoyable YoYo on a day to day basis, but in no way does it beat out the Dream in competition level performance.
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