# Would you buy custom made Clay Counter-Weights?
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/would-you-buy-custom-made-clay-counter-weights/58120
**Category:** General Yo-Yo
**Created:** [August 18, 2013, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/would-you-buy-custom-made-clay-counter-weights/58120 "2013-08-18T23:14:23Z")
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### Author:  [@unklesteve](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/unklesteve)
#### Post date: [August 20, 2013, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/would-you-buy-custom-made-clay-counter-weights/58120/22 "2013-08-20T15:56:53Z")
> [@PerspectiveDesigns](#):
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> I’ll also not call them Counter-Weights.
Doesn’t matter what you call them, you are selling them for the purpose of being used as counterweight, which is illegal unless you license the patent from Duncan.
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### Author:  [@Proboscis](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Proboscis)
#### Post date: [August 20, 2013, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/would-you-buy-custom-made-clay-counter-weights/58120/23 "2013-08-20T16:28:56Z")
> [@TotalArtist](#):
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> Very interesting information here. In your experience, how easily can he maintain a consistent weight, from piece to piece, using clay?
That would be hard to do. Clay is much easier to use when it’s wet, it’s pretty absorbent. You wouldn’t be able to consistently weigh them because one might have more water that the others. That’s why it shrinks. When clay is fired, it gets cooked at over a thousand degrees, which just evaporates all the water out of the clay, thus making it shrink.
Consistency would be hard to have when making clay counterweights.
I’m not saying it can’t be done, but every counterweight would basically be one of a kind.
If sculpy clay was used, you would be able to match the weights I believe. You can even insert something metal or wooden inside of it as a base to give it more support. Sculpy is also pretty durable, and softer than fired clay.
Experiment, try things out, have fun with it until you get a final product.
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### Author:  [@PerspectiveDesigns](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PerspectiveDesigns)
#### Post date: [August 20, 2013, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/would-you-buy-custom-made-clay-counter-weights/58120/24 "2013-08-20T17:22:02Z")
I think I will still experiment with making these. But in general I think it won’t work out. If I find they work really well, aren’t to heavy, don’t break, and are pretty durable I’ll contact Duncan and see if I could sell a few. I doubt I have enough talent to do this. But you never know 🙂
Thans for all the responses!
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### Author:  [@Proboscis](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Proboscis)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2013, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/would-you-buy-custom-made-clay-counter-weights/58120/25 "2013-08-21T00:12:00Z")
To help out with consistency, try to make a rig or a mold?
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### Author:  [@MYNAMEISZen](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MYNAMEISZen)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/would-you-buy-custom-made-clay-counter-weights/58120/26 "2013-08-21T03:08:14Z")
> [@Steve Brown](#):
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> Duncan Toys might want to have a talk with you about that.
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> They wouldn’t let me manufacture and sell counterweights without a hefty royalty and very large guarantee, so I’m pretty sure you’re in the same boat.
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> Feel free to drop them a line. Maybe you can get a better deal than I could. :wink:
It’s funny how the inventor of Counter Weight play can’t even produce counterweights. Kind of frustrating. They have a whole line of yoyos that might not have been possible without you yet they won’t let you make counterweights. _facepalm_
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