# Will Z-Stacks fit a PGM? **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Mods and Maintenance\ **Created:** [October 13, 2012, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/will-z-stacks-fit-a-pgm/43984 "2012-10-13T15:23:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MrSquirrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mrsquirrel/32/1008_2.png) [@MrSquirrel](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MrSquirrel)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/will-z-stacks-fit-a-pgm/43984/1 "2012-10-13T15:23:05Z")
I was just wondering because I had a PGM, and I sold it, but now I miss it. I am going to get another one, and I thought I might get Z-Stacks with it. I know it may cause vibe if they do fit, and I don’t plan to play it with the Z-Stacks all the time. ---
**Author:** ![Coffelt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/coffelt/32/1085_2.png) [@Coffelt](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Coffelt)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/will-z-stacks-fit-a-pgm/43984/2 "2012-10-13T15:33:09Z")
If memory serves me right they will not have issues other than slightly sticking out. ---
**Author:** ![A\_Soviet\_Locust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/a_soviet_locust/32/113687_2.png) [@A\_Soviet\_Locust](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/A_Soviet_Locust)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/will-z-stacks-fit-a-pgm/43984/3 "2012-10-13T15:49:26Z")
Z-stacks don’'t fit in skylines. ---
**Author:** ![PlasticWhip](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/plasticwhip/32/896_2.png) [@PlasticWhip](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PlasticWhip)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/will-z-stacks-fit-a-pgm/43984/4 "2012-10-13T15:53:26Z")
> [@A\_Soviet\_Locust](#): > > Z-stacks don’'t fit in skylines. He wasn’t asking about a skyline, now was he? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![A\_Soviet\_Locust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/a_soviet_locust/32/113687_2.png) [@A\_Soviet\_Locust](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/A_Soviet_Locust)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/will-z-stacks-fit-a-pgm/43984/5 "2012-10-13T16:27:44Z")
> [@WildCat23](#): > > > [@A\_Soviet\_Locust](#): > > > > Z-stacks don’'t fit in skylines. > > He wasn’t asking about a skyline, now was he? 😛 I just felt it was worth mentioning… ---
**Author:** ![modman10](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/modman10/32/874_2.png) [@modman10](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/modman10)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/will-z-stacks-fit-a-pgm/43984/6 "2012-10-13T17:49:13Z")
sorry for the sideways pic but they do fit ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/f/a/e/fae5cad6d03397d36a27babbf7d281492c4a9be3.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![TheYoYoist101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/theyoyoist101/32/842_2.png) [@TheYoYoist101](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheYoYoist101)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/will-z-stacks-fit-a-pgm/43984/7 "2012-10-13T18:37:43Z")
I don’t know why people experienced vibe with their PGM and Zstacks. Mine still plays smooth with them. ---
**Author:** ![MrSquirrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mrsquirrel/32/1008_2.png) [@MrSquirrel](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MrSquirrel)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/will-z-stacks-fit-a-pgm/43984/8 "2012-10-13T18:53:57Z")
> [@M.DeV1](#): > > I don’t know why people experienced vibe with their PGM and Zstacks. Mine still plays smooth with them. I don’t know if the Z-Stacks will cause vibe on a PGM. I heard that they cause vibe on most yoyos other than the G5. ---
**Author:** ![TheYoYoist101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/theyoyoist101/32/842_2.png) [@TheYoYoist101](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheYoYoist101)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/will-z-stacks-fit-a-pgm/43984/9 "2012-10-13T19:04:58Z")
> [@MrSquirrel](#): > > > [@M.DeV1](#): > > > > I don’t know why people experienced vibe with their PGM and Zstacks. Mine still plays smooth with them. > > I don’t know if the Z-Stacks will cause vibe on a PGM. I heard that they cause vibe on most yoyos other than the G5. I have used Zstacks on a G5, PGM, Superstar, 888x, DNA and dv888 all with out terrible vibe. ---
**Author:** ![A\_Soviet\_Locust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/a_soviet_locust/32/113687_2.png) [@A\_Soviet\_Locust](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/A_Soviet_Locust)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/will-z-stacks-fit-a-pgm/43984/10 "2012-10-13T19:33:20Z")
I think it depends on the pair you get. ---
**Author:** ![pyrotechnic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pyrotechnic/32/689058_2.png) [@pyrotechnic](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/pyrotechnic)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2012, 2:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/will-z-stacks-fit-a-pgm/43984/11 "2012-10-14T02:03:48Z")
> [@A\_Soviet\_Locust](#): > > Z-stacks don’'t fit in skylines. Actually they do fit but they kinda rub and causes a throbbing vibe… ---
**Author:** ![A\_Soviet\_Locust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/a_soviet_locust/32/113687_2.png) [@A\_Soviet\_Locust](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/A_Soviet_Locust)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2012, 2:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/will-z-stacks-fit-a-pgm/43984/12 "2012-10-14T02:04:41Z")
> [@pyrotechnic](#): > > > [@A\_Soviet\_Locust](#): > > > > Z-stacks don’'t fit in skylines. > > Actually they do fit but they kinda rub and causes a throbbing vibe… They fit but don’t spin. Makes it wobble more than a filthy dubstep track. ---
**Author:** ![pyrotechnic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pyrotechnic/32/689058_2.png) [@pyrotechnic](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/pyrotechnic)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2012, 2:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/will-z-stacks-fit-a-pgm/43984/13 "2012-10-14T02:08:09Z")
Eh I only tried it on a first run red one ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 4:49am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/will-z-stacks-fit-a-pgm/43984/14 "2012-10-16T04:49:20Z")
> [@MrSquirrel](#): > > > [@M.DeV1](#): > > > > I don’t know why people experienced vibe with their PGM and Zstacks. Mine still plays smooth with them. > > I don’t know if the Z-Stacks will cause vibe on a PGM. I heard that they cause vibe on most yoyos other than the G5. I’ve played Z-Stacks on a SuperStar. Was pretty smooth. No complaints. I got a SuperStar, got Z-stacks. Too lazy to put them in. Got Dice Stacks too, and too lazy to put those in too. Nice to have options though. ---
**Author:** ![Y\_yo\_2\_yo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/y_yo_2_yo/32/1001_2.png) [@Y\_yo\_2\_yo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Y_yo_2_yo)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2012, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/will-z-stacks-fit-a-pgm/43984/15 "2012-10-19T21:05:03Z")
Can you put them on the stackless PGM? ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Yoyoguy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mr_yoyoguy/32/922_2.png) [@Mr\_Yoyoguy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mr_Yoyoguy)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2012, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/will-z-stacks-fit-a-pgm/43984/16 "2012-10-19T21:07:34Z")
I put my z-stacks on my plastic grind machine alot, they are beast for experimenting with offstring! I do special whips with them because they protrude from the side of the yoyo. I have a lot of fun doing that! ---
**Author:** ![Bcmaddog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bcmaddog/32/1170_2.png) [@Bcmaddog](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Bcmaddog)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/will-z-stacks-fit-a-pgm/43984/17 "2012-11-18T21:23:10Z")
Yea but they stick out and vibe a little, also the string gets rapped around then and get tangled up. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Yoyoguy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mr_yoyoguy/32/922_2.png) [@Mr\_Yoyoguy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mr_Yoyoguy)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/will-z-stacks-fit-a-pgm/43984/18 "2012-11-18T21:23:58Z")
> [@Bcmaddog](#): > > Yea but they stick out and vibe a little, also the string gets rapped around then and get tangled up. I use that to my advantage for offstring. ---
**Author:** ![modman10](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/modman10/32/874_2.png) [@modman10](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/modman10)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/will-z-stacks-fit-a-pgm/43984/19 "2012-11-19T20:10:27Z")
> [@Y\_yo\_2\_yo](#): > > Can you put them on the stackless PGM? Yes but you have to upgrade it first.