# Why no big-O shape bi-metals? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [August 20, 2018, 3:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-no-big-o-shape-bi-metals/291919 "2018-08-20T03:05:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![E2\_yoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/e2_yoyos/32/41208_2.png) [@E2\_yoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/E2_yoyos)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 3:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-no-big-o-shape-bi-metals/291919/1 "2018-08-20T03:05:48Z")
There are some bubble shape bi-metals, like the YYR Anomaly, Sputnik, and less so the CLYW Gorge. But among the many different designs, shapes like the Markmont, or Grail, are rare. ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 3:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-no-big-o-shape-bi-metals/291919/2 "2018-08-20T03:08:09Z")
The smashing ~~Monocle~~ Spectacle is one of the exceptions. But this is true, pure organic bimetals are kinda rare. ---
**Author:** ![E2\_yoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/e2_yoyos/32/41208_2.png) [@E2\_yoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/E2_yoyos)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 3:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-no-big-o-shape-bi-metals/291919/3 "2018-08-20T03:41:50Z")
I love yoyos like the Markmont Classic or Peak that are very large O-Shapes. So as some might say “Classic Shapes”. But ever since the popularization of bi-metals, they all went more “Modern” and angular. ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 4:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-no-big-o-shape-bi-metals/291919/4 "2018-08-20T04:13:17Z")
There is also the O Ting but it is titanium rings on POM. The Gorge is an organic bimetal but it is a high walls throwback (albeit quite large for a throwback!) ---
**Author:** ![Applepooh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/applepooh/32/40751_2.png) [@Applepooh](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Applepooh)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 4:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-no-big-o-shape-bi-metals/291919/5 "2018-08-20T04:13:35Z")
Moderate Sized O-Shape, Smashing Spectacle Small / Undersized O-Shape, G2 Case File 003 I think we don’t see many O-shaped bi-metals because they (bi-metals) seem to be more geared toward competitive throwing. I def wish that there were more classy O-shaped bi-metals out there. ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 4:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-no-big-o-shape-bi-metals/291919/6 "2018-08-20T04:18:28Z")
@Oldthrower3000 previously suggested Mythril Monolith or Yoyorecreation Anomaly but I am not super convinced these are really _organics_ in the truest sense. ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Yoer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/old_yoer/32/20548_2.png) [@Old\_Yoer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Old_Yoer)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-no-big-o-shape-bi-metals/291919/7 "2018-08-20T07:38:29Z")
I’m a big fan of organics, not so much of bi-metals. Two others I can think of, though neither have a pure organic MMC-style shape, are the YYO Rave and the original Duncan Haymaker. I suppose organic shapes, and especially a pure organic shape, are rarer on bi-metals because bi-metals are generally all about performance whilst organics are about feel and comfort. ---
**Author:** ![imthegreenbean](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/imthegreenbean/32/20044_2.png) [@imthegreenbean](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/imthegreenbean)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-no-big-o-shape-bi-metals/291919/8 "2018-08-20T09:12:10Z")
It’s small but the sOMETHING SLASHER is a real nice semi-O bimetal. It’s not a full O but it’s pretty close. ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-no-big-o-shape-bi-metals/291919/9 "2018-08-20T10:12:39Z")
Looking at the profile of the Rave, that’s definitely not an organic though. The Haymaker X is really crazy, the massive bimetal rim extends beyond the edge a LOT. ---
**Author:** ![AaronW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aaronw/32/49251_2.png) [@AaronW](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AaronW)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-no-big-o-shape-bi-metals/291919/10 "2018-08-20T13:58:50Z")
So you mean why are there not more yoyos like the CLYW Gorge??? One of the most underrated yoyos of the past 5 years? It’s as organic shaped as they come. Never heard of a “bubble” shape. ---
**Author:** ![E2\_yoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/e2_yoyos/32/41208_2.png) [@E2\_yoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/E2_yoyos)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 2:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-no-big-o-shape-bi-metals/291919/11 "2018-08-21T02:11:01Z")
> [@AaronW](#): > > So you mean why are there not more yoyos like the CLYW Gorge??? I mean, the previous listed are the only or most organic among all bi-metals. I’m wondering why O shape bi-metals are so rare > [@Applepooh](#): > > I think we don’t see many O-shaped bi-metals because they (bi-metals) seem to be more geared toward competitive throwing With this knowlage… I ask, Is a **Pure** organic something the community would want more of? What about bi-metals? ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 2:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-no-big-o-shape-bi-metals/291919/12 "2018-08-21T02:57:39Z")
Yes, a lot of players really love organic… maybe a little too much in my opinion … :wink: ---
**Author:** ![AaronW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aaronw/32/49251_2.png) [@AaronW](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AaronW)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-no-big-o-shape-bi-metals/291919/13 "2018-08-21T13:45:10Z")
“With this knowlage… I ask, Is a Pure organic something the community would want more of? What about bi-metals?” Not sure how you quote in this new forum, lots of non intuitive features now 😕 I’d follow up that question with, what would be offered in another Organic that hasn’t been done? There are so many, hundreds, of pure organic yoyos out there. A lot of rehashing ideas these days, or straight up copying someone else’s design. ---
**Author:** ![YoYoExpertGarrett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoexpertgarrett/32/1543_2.png) [@YoYoExpertGarrett](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoExpertGarrett)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-no-big-o-shape-bi-metals/291919/15 "2018-08-21T18:19:51Z")
> [@AaronW](#): > > Not sure how you quote in this new forum, lots of non intuitive features now 😕 Highlight the text you want to quote and a little “Quote” box will popup. Click on that and it will automatically paste the quote into your reply. ---
**Author:** ![AaronW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aaronw/32/49251_2.png) [@AaronW](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AaronW)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-no-big-o-shape-bi-metals/291919/16 "2018-08-21T18:38:05Z")
> [@YoYoExpertGarrett](#): > > Highlight the text you want to quote and a little “Quote” box will popup. Click on that and it will automatically paste the quote into your reply. Thanks Garrett! Would’ve just said “Thanks!” But posts have to be a minimum 10 characters… ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-no-big-o-shape-bi-metals/291919/17 "2018-08-21T20:51:56Z")
> [@AaronW](#): > > Would’ve just said “Thanks!” There’s a feature for that, too… push the :heart: button on the post and save your typing fingers :wink: ---
**Author:** ![AaronW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aaronw/32/49251_2.png) [@AaronW](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AaronW)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-no-big-o-shape-bi-metals/291919/18 "2018-08-22T16:38:22Z")
I like typing and saying things to people, instead of always using a “heart” or like feature. ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-no-big-o-shape-bi-metals/291919/19 "2018-08-22T18:41:55Z")
okay   ---
**Author:** ![AaronW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aaronw/32/49251_2.png) [@AaronW](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AaronW)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-no-big-o-shape-bi-metals/291919/20 "2018-08-22T19:48:24Z")
Not sure how you got around the 10 character feature other than you were the one to design the software. But most modern forums did away with the minimum character thing a while back. ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-no-big-o-shape-bi-metals/291919/21 "2018-08-22T19:50:04Z")
Is there any particular advantage to the O shape other than hand comfort? [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-no-big-o-shape-bi-metals/291919.md?page=2)