# Why everybody wants Hydrangea yoyos? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [March 3, 2023, 3:49am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-everybody-wants-hydrangea-yoyos/371206 "2023-03-03T03:49:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![alomac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@alomac](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/alomac)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2023, 3:49am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-everybody-wants-hydrangea-yoyos/371206/1 "2023-03-03T03:49:50Z")
I saw everybody looking for them and price of those throws is really big, is there something special about them? ---
**Author:** ![mable](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mable/32/194074_2.png) [@mable](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mable)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2023, 4:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-everybody-wants-hydrangea-yoyos/371206/2 "2023-03-03T04:12:24Z")
There’s nothing special about them. I can’t speak for other people but I just personally like them. They just fit my personal ideal for what I want in a yoyo. I also love the players on the team. That’s about it really. ---
**Author:** ![yoyodoc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyodoc/32/48820_2.png) [@yoyodoc](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyodoc)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2023, 5:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-everybody-wants-hydrangea-yoyos/371206/3 "2023-03-03T05:21:24Z")
You seem to have a tendency to slightly over exaggerate the reality of the situation. But then again, I am just one buddy, somebody, anybody, etc… I have never even felt an urge to want a Hydrangea yo-yo. But your question is about as inaccurate as if I asked, ‘Why doesn’t anybody want a Hydrangea yo-yo’? ---
**Author:** ![tropical\_vibes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tropical_vibes/32/189325_2.png) [@tropical\_vibes](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/tropical_vibes)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2023, 6:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-everybody-wants-hydrangea-yoyos/371206/4 "2023-03-03T06:35:04Z")
I do see people listing Hydrangea yoyos as something they’d be interested in as a trade. My guess is that they’re quite rare and people are curious to try them out. I don’t think I’d chase after Hydrangea yoyos, but I was fortunate to pick up a Hydrangea Magnolia in a bundle. Definitely not my favorite yoyo, but it’s really interesting in that it’s so different from anything else I own. It is super heavy – it feels heavier than it’s listed weight – and on a sleeper drops to the end of the string with a big thud and zero kickback. Gravity loves this thing. Definitely slower and more methodical, but also sleeps for days. If you can acquire one through trade or at a reasonable price, I recommend you try it, but keep in mind that it may be a change-of-pace yoyo rather than your daily carry. At least this is my limited experience with one Hydrangea yoyo. ---
**Author:** ![hsb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hsb/32/193274_2.png) [@hsb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hsb)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2023, 6:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-everybody-wants-hydrangea-yoyos/371206/5 "2023-03-03T06:41:34Z")
> [@tropical\_vibes](#): > > It is super heavy – it feels heavier than it’s listed weight – and on a sleeper drops to the end of the string with a big thud and zero kickback. Gravity loves this thing. Definitely slower and more methodical, but also sleeps for days. Descriptions like this are why I would pay a premium price for a Hydrangea. ---
**Author:** ![alomac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@alomac](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/alomac)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2023, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-everybody-wants-hydrangea-yoyos/371206/6 "2023-03-03T06:51:06Z")
After this description I want SS hydrangea too. ---
**Author:** ![mable](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mable/32/194074_2.png) [@mable](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mable)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2023, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-everybody-wants-hydrangea-yoyos/371206/7 "2023-03-03T06:57:27Z")
Fwiw the Magnolia is my absolute favorite throw and I don’t agree with that description at all. There’s a lot of kickback and it’s just a heavy and very rimweighted design. Meant to be abused during play and pushed hard. It’s very much a competition/performance oriented design. Their steel designs exist in the same realm of just trying to make yoyos for people to compete with. They’re just very specific yoyos. If you look at one at a glance and know that the specs/design are exactly what you want you’ll be pleased. If you don’t know exactly why a specific model is going to appeal to you in play it’s going to be a very expensive “just another yoyo.” If you want a yoyo that feels very similar in play to a Magnolia get a Silenus or Bettynova or something. I think that’s the thing with their designs is just that they’re very specific, and for people who want a very specific design they don’t really care what it costs. I have zero interest in their bimetals, and I will never even consider playing a Haworthia or Berberis. I’m not interested in the brand as a whole, what I want are just a handful of very specific designs. ---
**Author:** ![hsb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hsb/32/193274_2.png) [@hsb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hsb)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2023, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-everybody-wants-hydrangea-yoyos/371206/8 "2023-03-03T06:59:00Z")
> [@mable](#): > > I think that’s the thing with their designs is just that they’re very specific, and for people who want a very specific design they don’t really care what it costs. I think this is the root of many niche yo-yo price controversies. ---
**Author:** ![tropical\_vibes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tropical_vibes/32/189325_2.png) [@tropical\_vibes](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/tropical_vibes)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2023, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-everybody-wants-hydrangea-yoyos/371206/9 "2023-03-03T07:00:59Z")
The Magnolia isn’t stainless steel; it is “a rare and ultra durable aluminum alloy called ANB79.” It’s super weird. It looks like really plasticky chrome. Very bright and shiny, mirror-like. But unsurprisingly feels anything but cheap. ---
**Author:** ![Takuro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c2a13f/32.png) [@Takuro](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Takuro)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-everybody-wants-hydrangea-yoyos/371206/10 "2023-04-04T00:01:56Z")
I say the hype is real. Just received the Lycoris, and it feels like it doesn’t have a speed limit. Its not “pingy” (tingy?) like a titanium but it moves like one. Its also got the nicest looking finishes I’ve seen in a while. And its super comfortable. I think it hits all the marks. I think its well designed and well made. ![Photo Apr 03 2023, 4 53 16 PM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/4/1/f/41ff940b488dce5bfadb6fee37a74a64746a5079.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![ChowChowNow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/chowchownow/32/189487_2.png) [@ChowChowNow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ChowChowNow)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-everybody-wants-hydrangea-yoyos/371206/11 "2023-04-04T00:24:46Z")
@Takuro if you ping it with a pen, it makes a very cool unique tone ping thing 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-everybody-wants-hydrangea-yoyos/371206/12 "2023-04-04T13:29:28Z")
> [@mable](#): > > If you want a yoyo that feels very similar in play to a Magnolia get a Silenus or Bettynova The Sharks Honor comes to mind as well > [@Magic Yoyo N12 Shark Honor](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/magic-yoyo-n12-shark-honor/291116): > > I’m excited to be getting back into yoyos after years of not throwing. To feed that excitement I ordered myself a Magic Yoyo N12 Shark Honor. This one seemed to check a lot of boxes. It looks cool, I like the graphics. (I ordered the less common [less popular?] green.) It looks like it reviews well and it’s wider and a different shape than my other yoyos. Plus it’s an all-metal and cheap! (I paid less than $10.) Since this one is wider than my current yoyos I hoped that it might make it slightl… ---
**Author:** ![mable](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mable/32/194074_2.png) [@mable](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mable)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-everybody-wants-hydrangea-yoyos/371206/13 "2023-04-04T15:05:34Z")
N12 is an actual legendary yoyo. Great design at an unreal price. I feel like a lot of hype for Japanese, or boutique/expensive stuff in general, is the misconception of “higher price = better performing yoyo.”. Hydrangea yoyos are extremely high quality designs, put out by an amazing designer and player, and they’re well worth the price to me personally. I just disagree with putting them on a pedestal just because they’re expensive/made in Japan. They’re not some kind of magical next-level design that will elevate your yoyo play. They’re still just spinny things that are gonna do whatever tricks you normally do with any other yoyo. Magnolia is my favorite yoyo. ![IMG_9658](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/e/c/0/ec0810aa3a534140daddca3bb64cb5af8247fd8d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![LeftyThrower24](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/leftythrower24/32/264593_2.png) [@LeftyThrower24](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LeftyThrower24)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-everybody-wants-hydrangea-yoyos/371206/14 "2023-04-04T15:53:20Z")
Are these the yo-yos that are/play real heavy? That’s the big reason I would be interested in one, 70+ grams or having it feel that heavy sounds lovely lol ---
**Author:** ![mable](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mable/32/194074_2.png) [@mable](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mable)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-everybody-wants-hydrangea-yoyos/371206/15 "2023-04-04T16:24:03Z")
No, not really. Magnolias are 67g, Quercus is 65g, and Lisianthus is 68g. All are 57x43, so on the bigger and more narrow side. Mags feel pretty powerful, but I wouldn’t say they play heavy. Just very rimweighted. Lisianthus feels the heaviest on the string, but it moves around more lightly and with greater ease. They don’t feel slow or sluggish, they might feel a little reluctant if you’re not used to playing 67-68g yoyos, but they’re comfortable and easy enough to accelerate or redirect at any speed you want. ---
**Author:** ![LeftyThrower24](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/leftythrower24/32/264593_2.png) [@LeftyThrower24](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LeftyThrower24)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-everybody-wants-hydrangea-yoyos/371206/16 "2023-04-04T16:34:23Z")
Ah okay I’m thinking of a different company then, didn’t you have a few in your collection that were 70+? ---
**Author:** ![mable](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mable/32/194074_2.png) [@mable](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mable)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-everybody-wants-hydrangea-yoyos/371206/17 "2023-04-04T16:44:37Z")
Yeah, you’re probably thinking of Turning Point. The St. Elmo is 2 grams lighter than the Magnolia and actively feels heavier and sluggish in comparison. Their 70-80g bimetals definitely don’t play heavy though. They’ve got the extra weight you only really notice in just a heavier presence on the string and egregiously long spins. The monos in that range like the Kiwi/Outsider do play heavy tho. ---
**Author:** ![ChowChowNow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/chowchownow/32/189487_2.png) [@ChowChowNow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ChowChowNow)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-everybody-wants-hydrangea-yoyos/371206/18 "2023-04-04T16:44:53Z")
Turning Point? ordinal 1 Collapsar Hades ---
**Author:** ![LeftyThrower24](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/leftythrower24/32/264593_2.png) [@LeftyThrower24](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LeftyThrower24)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-everybody-wants-hydrangea-yoyos/371206/19 "2023-04-04T16:46:13Z")
Yep I was definitely thinking of Turning Point! ---
**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-everybody-wants-hydrangea-yoyos/371206/20 "2023-04-04T16:51:58Z")
### N12 Shark Honor Specs Weight **67.5** grams Diameter 55mm Width 44mm ![20220502_085643](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/a/d/b/adb91da065e83b2b7e7a2736f1ebea0fb9b4e987.jpeg) This yoyo plays as good as my [YYR Anomaly](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/anomaly-yoyo-by-yoyorecreation?variant=40182999220414). I might have gotten lucky, but I treat it like my other throws and don’t take it apart constantly, my stock bearing and pads are great as well. [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-everybody-wants-hydrangea-yoyos/371206.md?page=2)