# Why aren't there carbon fiber yoyos yet? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [June 18, 2023, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-arent-there-carbon-fiber-yoyos-yet/378153 "2023-06-18T21:51:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![hsb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hsb/32/193274_2.png) [@hsb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hsb)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-arent-there-carbon-fiber-yoyos-yet/378153/21 "2023-06-19T18:26:41Z")
There are machine-able forms of carbon fiber. Most forms are basically fiber reinforced resin solids. It has its own challenges and hazards when it comes to machining. Whether managing harmful dust compares to dealing with the physical properties of titanium, I don’t really know. I just doubt that choosing CF over Al, Ti or even polycarbonate would yield a yo-yo that has any distinct advantage. There aren’t any of the unique load bearing requirements etc. that make CF an attractive alternative in other applications. ---
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-arent-there-carbon-fiber-yoyos-yet/378153/22 "2023-06-19T19:12:05Z")
A part of me wants to do an economics 101 lecture on this topic but it’s not worth the word spaghetti no one wants to read. TLDR version. Yoyo is small market. Carbon fiber is expensive and hard to work with. Unless someone has a passion project they want to throw away money at it’s not a viable material to make what in the end is a toy out of. Similar issue with the super cool concept yo-yos like the gemstone and unicorn and yofo and many others lots of unique parts and manufacturing steps that make the yoyo something to make in small quantities. It’s also why we don’t have a bunch of mass produced wood yo-yos because the labor at scale breaks any concept of an ROI. Don’t get me wrong I love the unique and fun concept yo-yos and wood throws. I want more of them but realistically they aren’t a scalable thing unless you can be unique enough to make your own category and own it. ---
**Author:** ![suspense](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/suspense/32/178499_2.png) [@suspense](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/suspense)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 1:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-arent-there-carbon-fiber-yoyos-yet/378153/23 "2023-06-21T01:46:12Z")
Vector Swan from s.kon. ![20150220213329623](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/0/d/1/0d1170931c2e0988e8710e4d19faee2dad4bea26.jpeg) ![20150220213327973 (1)](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/7/b/a/7bab41b1dea6f1b918c21f7f1514658d7fc664f9.jpeg) ![20150220213326c72](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/2/4/6/246bb922ef5c0ee0c4dd24e94d9a5c76d48f3be4.jpeg) ![VEKTOR-SWAN1](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/4/6/2/46269d00224bdc83405f535dcf55a0035001e223.jpeg) ![VEKTOR-SWAN2](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/2/6/3/263e0eaef817a33765942ba44103adf6e61eaf89.jpeg) ![VEKTOR-SWAN3](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/e/0/5/e059447c55eeae8c3b29874e71257ad8084cd9f0.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Benthrowsyoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/benthrowsyoyo/32/300522_2.png) [@Benthrowsyoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Benthrowsyoyo)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-arent-there-carbon-fiber-yoyos-yet/378153/24 "2023-06-21T12:38:30Z")
That actually looks like it could be a really nice yo [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-arent-there-carbon-fiber-yoyos-yet/378153.md?page=1)