# Which yoyo should I buy? **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [August 8, 2018, 11:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-should-i-buy/291614 "2018-08-08T23:58:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![popcap](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/popcap/32/40696_2.png) [@popcap](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/popcap)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2018, 11:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-should-i-buy/291614/1 "2018-08-08T23:58:04Z")
I am stuck between which of the following yoyos I should purchase: YYF DV888, the sage yoyo from ■■■■■■■■■■, and the yoyofactory velocity. Please recommend which you think I should buy. ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 12:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-should-i-buy/291614/2 "2018-08-09T00:00:33Z")
Well, not the DV888, and I am not a fan of “adjustable gap” yoyos because they are so fiddly. So go with the Sage, of the ones you have listed. Also, people recommend the heck out of the Recess First Base as well and I concur > **[Recess First Base](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/recess-first-base-yoyo)** > > Recess was founded by World Champion, National Champion, and general yo-yo legend - Tyler Severance! Tyler quickly assembled an amazing team of talented players and they're doing a great job bringing that fun and exciting recess feeling back into the... ---
**Author:** ![popcap](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/popcap/32/40696_2.png) [@popcap](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/popcap)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-should-i-buy/291614/3 "2018-08-09T00:02:34Z")
So out of the sage or first base which would you recommend? ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 12:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-should-i-buy/291614/4 "2018-08-09T00:04:27Z")
I have both and I prefer the Sage. However, I’m sure someone else will say the opposite, so I really think you can’t go wrong with either. I prefer the Sage because it seems to vibrate less than the First Base and it is a lot quieter. But that could just be an anomaly with my particular First Base yoyo. ---
**Author:** ![popcap](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/popcap/32/40696_2.png) [@popcap](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/popcap)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 12:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-should-i-buy/291614/5 "2018-08-09T00:18:55Z")
Ok, thank for you the recommendations! ---
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-should-i-buy/291614/6 "2018-08-09T00:52:59Z")
If you’re going to be doing responsive play, get the first base. It has a responsive and unresponsive bearing. If you can already do unresponsive I would recommend the YYF Replay Pro. And btw, how loud a yoyo is is due to the state of the yoyos bearing, you can make any yoyo quieter by lubing the bearing. ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-should-i-buy/291614/7 "2018-08-09T00:55:19Z")
FYI: The Sage pack I bought also comes with a Center Trac bearing for when you’re ready to upgrade it to unresponsive play. I was surprised by the noise of the First Base seeing as it was brand new and shouldn’t need lubing right out of the box. ---
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 1:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-should-i-buy/291614/8 "2018-08-09T01:42:03Z")
It can vary. My first base was pretty quiet when I got it. ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 1:49am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-should-i-buy/291614/9 "2018-08-09T01:49:54Z")
It is a long story but I thin lube every single yoyo I get as soon as I get it, new or not. I _really_ like quiet and smooth. ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 1:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-should-i-buy/291614/10 "2018-08-09T01:54:20Z")
Thick lube to keep it responsive though, yes? I have my Sage and First Base in responsive mode for now while I make my way through the “intermediate” trick category. For kicks I tried the simple binds (one forward, one side) and concluded that I’m just not ready for that yet (I don’t have enough basic yoyo control to make practicing binds anything but super frustrating right now). ---
**Author:** ![shatterFX](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shatterfx/32/66476_2.png) [@shatterFX](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/shatterFX)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 4:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-should-i-buy/291614/11 "2018-08-09T04:06:54Z")
I would say to NOT get a DV888. I’d get either a Recess First Base, YYF Replay Pro, or YYF Wedge for the price range you’re looking at. ---
**Author:** ![popcap](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/popcap/32/40696_2.png) [@popcap](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/popcap)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-should-i-buy/291614/12 "2018-08-09T15:30:24Z")
Do already have the wedge, but I am looking to start with responsive play first. ---
**Author:** ![YoYoExpertGarrett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoexpertgarrett/32/1543_2.png) [@YoYoExpertGarrett](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoExpertGarrett)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-should-i-buy/291614/13 "2018-08-09T15:56:49Z")
First, just want to point out that the ‘Sage’ is just a responsive rebranded YoYoFactory OneStar ($7.99 here at YoyoExpert). > **[YoYoFactory](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/yoyofactory)** > > YoYoFactory was born in 2004 with a focus on functional technology to improve the playing experience. This has been a goal of the company which relies on the experience gathered from over 30 years of demonstrating yoyos around the planet. The end... That said - I would recommend the Recess First Base over the Onestar. The First Base has a more powerful spin and is more forgiving when you’re learning and trying to perfect your throw. I like the weight of it much better for unresponsive play as well. ---
**Author:** ![popcap](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/popcap/32/40696_2.png) [@popcap](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/popcap)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-should-i-buy/291614/14 "2018-08-09T15:59:21Z")
So the first base can do responsive play as well as unresponsive? ---
**Author:** ![YoYoExpertGarrett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoexpertgarrett/32/1543_2.png) [@YoYoExpertGarrett](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoExpertGarrett)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-should-i-buy/291614/15 "2018-08-09T16:12:06Z")
Yup, The First Base comes responsive out of the box and has an unresponsive bearing you can swap in when you’re ready for advanced tricks. Also, not to overload you with choices, but here’s a few other beginner yo-yos I really like: > **[Arrow](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/arrow-yoyo-by-yoyofactory)** > > With the sights set on the future of yoyo, YoYoFactory is creating the next generation of beginner yo-yos! This is the Arrow! The Arrow will form the foundation of the new YoYoFactory beginner line of affordable high performance yo-yos. It's light... > **[YoYoFactory](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/yoyofactory)** > > YoYoFactory was born in 2004 with a focus on functional technology to improve the playing experience. This has been a goal of the company which relies on the experience gathered from over 30 years of demonstrating yoyos around the planet. The end... > **[Duncan](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/duncan)** > > Duncan is the most widely recognized yo-yo name in the entire world. Since 1929, the name "Duncan" has been synonymous with "yo-yo" across the United States, and for good reason! Their yo-yos represent the top-of-the-line for beginners or... > **[YOYOFFICER](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/yoyofficer)** > > YOYOFFICER is a great new yo-yo manufacturer based out of China and they have created some really unique yo-yo designs in the few years they have been around.  They are focused on creating high performance competition level yo-yos without the... > **[Japan Technology](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/japan-technology)** > > Japan Technology is a yo-yo company based in Japan and specializing on high performance offstring yo-yos.  Their first yo-yo, the Kamui, quickly became a favorite of offstring players with its smooth, fast play. And if you want to get some accessories as well the starter sets are always a good choice: > **[Starter Sets](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/starter-sets)** ---
**Author:** ![popcap](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/popcap/32/40696_2.png) [@popcap](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/popcap)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-should-i-buy/291614/16 "2018-08-09T19:49:32Z")
So, would you recommend the first base over the replay? ---
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-should-i-buy/291614/17 "2018-08-09T19:50:26Z")
I would say first base if you want to do responsive play along with unresponsive. If you just want to do unresponsive, get the Replay Pro. ---
**Author:** ![popcap](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/popcap/32/40696_2.png) [@popcap](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/popcap)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-should-i-buy/291614/18 "2018-08-09T19:51:16Z")
I already have unresponsive, I want to do responsive. ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-should-i-buy/291614/19 "2018-08-09T19:51:56Z")
The Replay (non-Pro version) is sold as a responsive yoyo. Is it identical to a Replay Pro except for the bearing it comes with? ---
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-should-i-buy/291614/20 "2018-08-09T19:54:23Z")
If you already have an unresponsive then I would definitely get the regular Replay. It’s a little more stable and longer spinning than the first base imo. [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-should-i-buy/291614.md?page=2)