# Which Yoyo Is Your “Holy Grail?” **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [October 16, 2024, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-your-holy-grail/411835 "2024-10-16T23:29:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![yogurt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yogurt/32/643588_2.png) [@yogurt](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yogurt)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2025, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-your-holy-grail/411835/184 "2025-02-03T19:32:24Z")
![give-it-back-fae2e1f67f](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/d/5/0/d502b77a35613dc6decb9ce46a307aa5e11ca176.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Snoopy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/snoopy/32/669143_2.png) [@Snoopy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Snoopy)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2025, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-your-holy-grail/411835/185 "2025-02-03T21:39:05Z")
The Peak seems incredible! great yoyo. :wink: ---
**Author:** ![TheSliverKing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/thesliverking/32/297284_2.png) [@TheSliverKing](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheSliverKing)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2025, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-your-holy-grail/411835/186 "2025-02-03T21:50:27Z")
Nah he’s still the goat and idc what any overly poltically correct cry babies have to say about it lol 😐 @Snoopy ---
**Author:** ![Snoopy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/snoopy/32/669143_2.png) [@Snoopy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Snoopy)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2025, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-your-holy-grail/411835/187 "2025-02-03T21:51:11Z")
You know what, I wasn’t given the full gist of it, I’ll read on it myself and come to my own conclusion. ---
**Author:** ![Snoopy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/snoopy/32/669143_2.png) [@Snoopy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Snoopy)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-your-holy-grail/411835/188 "2025-02-04T22:42:50Z")
Alright–I’ve decided to take a step back and truly define what would be my Holy Grail. I started thinking, it would have to be durable, so I would probably want it to be made of 7068/7075 Aluminum or Titanium, and to add to the durability/longevity thing, I would want it to be Side Effect compatible, so I don’t need to worry about stripping it. (that _is_ how SE work, right?) And now the Weight, I’m not really sure on the weight? I haven’t actually bothered to determine what weight I prefer, but probably about a heavyish-medium weight, if that makes sense? maybe 65g - 67g? as for Size, definitely undersized, 50mm - 52mm in diameter, and 38mm - 40mm in width. Shape… definitely organic, there is no question there at all. And probably a size C or D bearing, I think that’s around my sweet spot. Alright, I’ve pretty much defined my Holy Grail, now are there any yoyos actually like that? ---
**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-your-holy-grail/411835/189 "2025-02-04T22:59:17Z")
> **[Daytona Slimline SE](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/daytona-slimline-se-yoyo-by-luftverk?variant=41473475510462)** > > From Luftverk: The Daytona Slimline SE "Side Effect" is a rebirth of the classic slimline with the addition of Onedrop's Side Effect system. The utilitarian idea of having a yoyo that can be serviced infinitely adds to the concept of the ultimate EDC... ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/2/b/2/2b2a29410f169821ff9be88934e6c52233de638d.jpeg) or > **[Mecha Bapezilla](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/mecha-bapezilla-yoyo-by-round-spinning-objects)** > > From RSO: The non-SE Mecha-Bapezilla was RSO’s first collaboration and one that helped give the company the initial push it needed (this is something I will always feel indebted to Sonny for). Over the years, different versions such as the... ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/0/f/c0f422fc570a86744fe8677c805acd7822c657b9.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Snoopy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/snoopy/32/669143_2.png) [@Snoopy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Snoopy)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-your-holy-grail/411835/190 "2025-02-04T23:05:18Z")
Oooh, the Mecha-Bapezilla is pretty much exactly what I described… except its sold out! (and $400 nonetheless) ---
**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-your-holy-grail/411835/191 "2025-02-04T23:10:21Z")
> [@Snoopy](#): > > its sold out! [https://www.ebay.com/itm/296963614685?\_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D1110013%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIMRXI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20211209162615%26meid%3Db9e2421718594114b7bab88cebdadff6%26pid%3D101479%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D225149486825%26itm%3D296963614685%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D4429259%26algv%3DSimRXIVINativeV1WithMMV3&\_trksid=p4429259.c101479.m3476&itmprp=cksum%3A296963614685b9e2421718594114b7bab88cebdadff6|enc%3AAQAJAAABANuN8NTv9RukBYuYjtEJJJNvFpyIwr0PuRWg7Uh9FvFDmpJn%252Bjm6710EPxDwmdEfSizhQND4prp2OUoh39X%252BVD4NNXzKmBKQMr7OWGqKUEyTYnbNdP8Z5gA3Bsba%252BYCx3cXBxQ4IfFDidbf%252BZQisNAKu8eCdhK82Y9sGZmLhncQSVAg38uQROSEGGdQekl2PkTS%252BBgk1FvXULN7f%252Bt%252FGTS50TRYHxYTAeiIHM%252Bru0LoDP7L5wCW9E9gD4ZCZirozK2F87aSf4WBbgS%252B2P2s42dz7cIxI2BLdYi10HDqGzG1pgKzVnxbDlWe4xyYAG60MDX9pHcylWEZTMp3DMTAOYOE%253D|ampid%3APL\_CLK|clp%3A4429259&itmmeta=01JK9KFHX5DPR4J0ARPBFHGRMT](https://www.ebay.com/itm/296963614685?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D1110013%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIMRXI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20211209162615%26meid%3Db9e2421718594114b7bab88cebdadff6%26pid%3D101479%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D225149486825%26itm%3D296963614685%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D4429259%26algv%3DSimRXIVINativeV1WithMMV3&_trksid=p4429259.c101479.m3476&itmprp=cksum%3A296963614685b9e2421718594114b7bab88cebdadff6%7Cenc%3AAQAJAAABANuN8NTv9RukBYuYjtEJJJNvFpyIwr0PuRWg7Uh9FvFDmpJn%252Bjm6710EPxDwmdEfSizhQND4prp2OUoh39X%252BVD4NNXzKmBKQMr7OWGqKUEyTYnbNdP8Z5gA3Bsba%252BYCx3cXBxQ4IfFDidbf%252BZQisNAKu8eCdhK82Y9sGZmLhncQSVAg38uQROSEGGdQekl2PkTS%252BBgk1FvXULN7f%252Bt%252FGTS50TRYHxYTAeiIHM%252Bru0LoDP7L5wCW9E9gD4ZCZirozK2F87aSf4WBbgS%252B2P2s42dz7cIxI2BLdYi10HDqGzG1pgKzVnxbDlWe4xyYAG60MDX9pHcylWEZTMp3DMTAOYOE%253D%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A4429259&itmmeta=01JK9KFHX5DPR4J0ARPBFHGRMT) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/4/4/6/4465157d52e967a164a04db95426c3f6edb8817c.jpeg) They can be found ---
**Author:** ![Snoopy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/snoopy/32/669143_2.png) [@Snoopy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Snoopy)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-your-holy-grail/411835/192 "2025-02-04T23:14:11Z")
$490 bucks? gosh dang, how fat do they think my wallet is? thanks for the help, though! ---
**Author:** ![SlowThrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slowthrow/32/307451_2.png) [@SlowThrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SlowThrow)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 11:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-your-holy-grail/411835/193 "2025-02-04T23:18:13Z")
There have been a few on here too, but yeah they are not cheap lol. I like that Luftwerk a whole lot, definitely adding to my list ---
**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-your-holy-grail/411835/194 "2025-02-04T23:23:59Z")
Save up for a Sudo, when in doubt Parlay to save the day > [@Appreciation of the OD- Static Co Parlay and Sudo counterparts!](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/appreciation-of-the-od-static-co-parlay-and-sudo-counterparts/343088): > ---
**Author:** ![venom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/venom/32/79619_2.png) [@venom](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/venom)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 11:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-your-holy-grail/411835/195 "2025-02-04T23:31:52Z")
Ditto @exmime, sudo/parlay fit what you’re looking for. Also, so does the RSO End Part II (minus the SE’s though). ---
**Author:** ![Tempura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tempura/32/246135_2.png) [@Tempura](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Tempura)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-your-holy-grail/411835/196 "2025-02-04T23:36:26Z")
The End Part 2 is a lot better than the Parlay I think. Also I like the titanium version less than the aluminums, though I haven’t tried the RSO SE titanium models. ---
**Author:** ![Snoopy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/snoopy/32/669143_2.png) [@Snoopy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Snoopy)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 11:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-your-holy-grail/411835/197 "2025-02-04T23:37:18Z")
The End Part II doesn’t use Side Effects though. ---
**Author:** ![Tempura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tempura/32/246135_2.png) [@Tempura](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Tempura)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 11:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-your-holy-grail/411835/198 "2025-02-04T23:43:25Z")
There is a titanium variant that does, but I’ve never tried it. Asora was the winner… ![c23da1d083a8d2a29a0d0cf3c92b3fc8f4541d73](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/2/3/c23da1d083a8d2a29a0d0cf3c92b3fc8f4541d73.jpeg) ![ff8cddbddc5641a4911f007f139dd7be3bed7b4c](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/f/f/8/ff8cddbddc5641a4911f007f139dd7be3bed7b4c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 11:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-your-holy-grail/411835/199 "2025-02-04T23:43:58Z")
> [@Snoopy](#): > > how fat do they think my wallet is? On a budget just get a Magic Yo-Yo Avocado 🥑 > [@Avocado love?](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/avocado-love/329274/11): > > My Avocado V2 plays smooth with no vibe issues, which is awesome for the price point. It’s weight makes it feel old school and the glossy finish can be a little tacky. If they did another new run with them blasted, these would get even more love. ![17387126437958612306680586237423](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/d/1/a/d1adc0c6a44460fd495bc002ac014487ac953091.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Splizacular](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/splizacular/32/640487_2.png) [@Splizacular](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Splizacular)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-your-holy-grail/411835/200 "2025-02-05T00:29:40Z")
> [@Snoopy](#): > > Alright, I’ve pretty much defined my Holy Grail, now are there any yoyos actually like that other than your undersized qualification i would have said you wanted an asora v3 ![1000002515](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/8/c/b/8cb6e8dcb635f3e5d08be035ebf2100be58208a1.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![yoyospirit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyospirit/32/219875_2.png) [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 12:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-your-holy-grail/411835/201 "2025-02-05T00:44:47Z")
Oof gonna open a big can of worms there lol ---
**Author:** ![AudreySickburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/audreysickburn/32/313292_2.png) [@AudreySickburn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AudreySickburn)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 12:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-your-holy-grail/411835/202 "2025-02-05T00:58:46Z")
Was gonna say the same until I saw the diameter! Asora feels kinda small though, in a good way. From memory I would have called it 54. ---
**Author:** ![Snoopy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/snoopy/32/669143_2.png) [@Snoopy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Snoopy)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-your-holy-grail/411835/203 "2025-02-05T01:00:35Z")
Asora definitely looks sweet, the diameter isn’t too bad, but I definitely prefer smaller than that. [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-your-holy-grail/411835.md?page=9) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/which-yoyo-is-your-holy-grail/411835.md?page=11)